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Old 07-01-2012, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Originally Posted by janelle144 View Post
How about this.... you Christians and other various religious people who want to use your holy book to tell ME what to do keep it to yourself and simply don't have abortions. Easy peasy, right?

Oh... wait... I know of at least 5 pro life women Christian women who have had abortions... I guess it's do as I say and not as I do, right?

Seriously. Keep your religion out of my uterus and out of my life. Thanks.
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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As long as they paid forit.

I personally wouldn't be friends any longer with such selfish people.

Why didn't they just get themselves sterilized?
So you don't care about the children, or the women, you just care about the money. Talk about selfish


Just because one gets an abortion doesn't mean they don't want to have children in the future. Again, you do not have say over what I do with my body, inducing a miscarriage or sterlizing myself will be MY decision and MY decision alone.
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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As long as they paid forit.
Excellent. We now have you on record as saying that electing to have an abortion is the performance of "personal responsibility".

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I personally wouldn't be friends any longer with such selfish people.
I fail to see how they are selfish, or why their decision to have an abortion should have any bearing on my friendship with them.

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Why didn't they just get themselves sterilized?
Don't know, as I never asked (or cared). Just speculating though, it might have to do with cost and risk weighed against the birth control.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:02 AM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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Since this became news, my kids have been getting emails and calls from people graduating high school, who are suddenly thinking of Colleges far, FAR from Mississippi. And they're getting calls from people graduating college, who are, suddenly, thinking that they've got to get as far from Mississippi as they can get.

Not that this is particularly new. Every time the cretins running Mississippi come out with something like this, there's a new crop of the state's Best & Brightest, who announce to their families, that they're leaving. Most of the time, their older relatives, instead of protesting and begging, say something like, "Don't blame you, Honey. Wish we'd gotten out of here while we could."

And so, another U-Haul gets loaded, and another fledgling Attorney or Physician or Scientist heads to someplace not ruled by imbeciles.

Sometimes, the Parents follow. Our kids reacted to the holy-rolling hate mongers running Mississippi, and chose schools here in Oregon. They encouraged us to move out here, too. We resisted. But we already had nice income streams coming from the Pacific Northwest, and our visits out here were so pleasant... When the hate mongers destroyed our favorite new Mississippi building (basically, it was like peasants with torches destroying the palace...can't have anything NICE....anything but that....), I relented, accepted an offer on the house, OK'd our Decorator to start shopping for a house for us... AND THAT WAS THAT.

Basically, when you scratch the surface, you discover that far too many Mississippians' "OH, we're just plain-ol' good-natured friendly folks" act disguises bitterness, hatefulness, and cultivated ignorance. You don't get that ignorant without trying. You have to cultivate it. Mississippians wear their ignorance like badges of honor.

So anyway, Portland, Seattle, Overland Park, Austin, Madison (Wisconsin).... all those places can expect to see a U-haul or two coming in from Mississippi. Happens every time the stupid and hateful in Mississippi throw another little moralistic fit.

Be nice! The best and brightest of Mississippi are starting new lives in better places. These are The Good Ones. You'll like 'em.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:09 AM
 
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Since this became news, my kids have been getting emails and calls from people graduating high school, who are suddenly thinking of Colleges far, FAR from Mississippi. And they're getting calls from people graduating college, who are, suddenly, thinking that they've got to get as far from Mississippi as they can get.

Not that this is particularly new. Every time the cretins running Mississippi come out with something like this, there's a new crop of the state's Best & Brightest, who announce to their families, that they're leaving. Most of the time, their older relatives, instead of protesting and begging, say something like, "Don't blame you, Honey. Wish we'd gotten out of here while we could."

And so, another U-Haul gets loaded, and another fledgling Attorney or Physician or Scientist heads to someplace not ruled by imbeciles.

Sometimes, the Parents follow. Our kids reacted to the holy-rolling hate mongers running Mississippi, and chose schools here in Oregon. We resisted. But we had nice income streams coming from the Pacific Northwest, and our visits out here were so pleasant... When the hate mongers destroyed our favorite new Mississippi building (basically, it was like peasants with torches destroying the palace...can't have anything NICE....anything but that....), I relented, accepted an offer on the house, OK'd our Decorator to start shopping for a house for us... AND THAT WAS THAT.

Basically, when you scratch the surface, you discover that far too many Mississippians' "OH, we're just plain-ol' good-natured friendly folks" act disguises bitterness, hatefulness, and cultivated ignorance. You don't get that ignorant without trying. You have to cultivate it. Mississippians wear their ignorance like badges of honor.

So anyway, Portland, Seattle, Overland Park, Austin, Madison (Wisconsin).... all those places can expect to see a U-haul or two coming in from Mississippi. Happens every time the stupid and hateful in Mississippi throw another little moralistic fit.

Be nice! The best and brightest of Mississippi are starting new lives in better places. These are The Good Ones. You'll like 'em.
This seems oddly appropriate...

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Old 07-02-2012, 12:21 AM
 
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Who says we aren't concerned? We face reality.....more women will die if abortion isn't legal. Don't you care that more women will die if abortion is banned?

Many elective medical procedures can result in death.....should we ban them all?

And then of course, there is the FACT that many more women die from childbirth than legal abortion. Shouldn't the risk a woman takes with her life be up to her......not you?

Why aren't pro-lifers concerned about the FACT that if abortion is banned......many more women will die from illegal abortions?

Is it that you don't care.....as long as you get YOUR way?
I have not seen much concern demonstrated by pro-abortion people over the deaths of women during legal abortions.

Why don't you tell what they have done to demonstrate this alleged concern?
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:38 AM
 
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How about this.... you Christians and other various religious people who want to use your holy book to tell ME what to do keep it to yourself and simply don't have abortions. Easy peasy, right?

Oh... wait... I know of at least 5 pro life women Christian women who have had abortions... I guess it's do as I say and not as I do, right?

Seriously. Keep your religion out of my uterus and out of my life. Thanks.

That ministry is more than about religion, it's also about the psychological toll abortion has on women, Many counselors are there to help. It's just not normal for a woman to want to kill her offspring and then not think about it afterward.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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I have not seen much concern demonstrated by pro-abortion people over the deaths of women during legal abortions.

Why don't you tell what they have done to demonstrate this alleged concern?
What concern do you want? As has been mentioned, any medical procedure carries inherent risks. Unfortunately, it is just a sad fact of life that some people will die during those procedures.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:44 AM
 
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:49 AM
 
Location: California
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That ministry is more than about religion, it's also about the psychological toll abortion has on women, Many counselors are there to help. It's just not normal for a woman to want to kill her offspring and then not think about it afterward.
Well "normal" isn't definable and if people are "abnormal" you have to accept it.
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