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We should never stop caring for life. Nor have I ever suggested that.
Then why do you not support programs that would not only help children that are here, but encourage women to have their children and raise them, and do it in the right way?
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You seemed more focused on creating false perception that dealing with reality.
The mere fact that you would suggest this shows that you are functioning solely on rhetoric and not on reality.
You can call it a tactical retreat if you like, but there is no disputing that you went from you using one term (murder) to another (taking a life) when you were cornered with no way out. You got hammered, and you know it. Everyone who is watching this debate knows it.
Just curious, but it appears now you have wiggled/tactically retreated to suggesting that you DO believe government should legislate morality. That's a perfectly valid opinion, but you already had your chance here. Abortion was criminalized at one point. Roe v. Wade changed that. It also did the same on contraception (Griswold v. Connecticut) and homosexuality (Lawrence v. Texas). Your side had its day in court, and they lost. It is now reduced to a moral issue.
Oh so funny, is your chest all puffed up now too? My minds eye sees you doing that. Too funny.
I really don't care if you need to find ways to believe you win.
I think it interesting that you think laws are above morals.
Again, if you can get focused on something other that your self, like the topic, killing an unborn child is morally wrong.
Again, to use your logic of hiding behind law, if rape was not illegal, you would be okay with it?
Then why do you not support programs that would not only help children that are here, but encourage women to have their children and raise them, and do it in the right way?
The mere fact that you would suggest this shows that you are functioning solely on rhetoric and not on reality.
How do you know what I support?
Your suggestion that you know "programs" I do or do not support shows your rhetoric.
Taking the life of an unborn child is morally wrong. That does not change if you are "pro life" or "pro abortion".
Again, it is interesting to see law define morals but morals not define law.
So you agree, if it was illegal to have an abortion, it would be wrong to have an abortion. That is your logic.
You're actually getting into a much more complicated discussion of ethics, mainly pertaining to whether it is moral or not to disobey unjust laws. Martin Luther King talked about this in his letters from a Birmingham jail.
Oh so funny, is your chest all puffed up now too? My minds eye sees you doing that. Too funny.
I really don't care if you need to find ways to believe you win.
I think it interesting that you think laws are above morals.
Again, if you can get focused on something other that your self, like the topic, killing an unborn child is morally wrong.
Again, to use your logic of hiding behind law, if rape was not illegal, you would be okay with it?
First off, I get no pride out of schooling the simpletons like yourself. It's more like a job than a hobby.
Second, I didn't neccesarily say laws are above morals. Again, you're getting into a much deeper discussion of ethics theory and law than I think you are capable of handling. Since I have sat on my school's student board of ethics, I can handle it though.
You should also qualify your statement by pointing out that you are part of the segment of the population that finds abortion immoral. I, and many others, are not.
Well, this post, in regards to my asking whether or not you supported various pro-child/pro-single-parent programs was a decent indicator:
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Why would that child automatically need those things?
I was not aborted and I don't need them.
So, to respond to your next repartee:
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Your suggestion that you know "programs" I do or do not support shows your rhetoric.
Then please, enlighten me.
Rectify your statement that a child doesn't "automatically" need help when it can't be provided by its parents with your "hey there, Mr. Mean Jeans! Don't put words in my mouth!" deflection here.
Moreover: none of what I'm saying is "rhetoric."
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Taking the life of an unborn child is morally wrong. That does not change if you are "pro life" or "pro abortion".
I think it's unpleasant but would stop short at saying that I believe that it's morally wrong. I don't believe that life begins at conception, so I find an abortion in the early stages to be about as morally wrong as a really heavily-used maxi pad.
Parenthood is not a punishment. Why would you say that?
Parenthood IS a punishment for those that do not want to be a parent. Not everyone wants be a mother or father.
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