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Old 07-17-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
Well? 20 minutes in, what's happening?
basically mike zullo is claiming that hawaiian birth certificates are "worthless". mike may want to check the full faith and credit clause of the constitution.


the only "new" evidence so far is they found verna lee, the "U. K. Lee" whose signature is on the birth certificate and the birthers thought was "ukelele" (proof that the certificate was fraudulent).
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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Turns out the coded numbers on Obama's BC don't match the data in the respective fields. Hmmm...
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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now zullo is claiming the reg numbers couldn't have been issued chronologically. the evidence to date says differently:

WND Mystery certificate – 09945 – 8/23/1961
Nordyke, Susan – 10637 – 8/5/1961
Nordyke, Gretchen – 10638- 8/5/1961
Obama, Barack – 10641- 8/4/1961
Waidelich, Stig – 10920- 8/5/1961
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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now zullo is claiming the reg numbers couldn't have been issued chronologically. the evidence to date says differently:

WND Mystery certificate – 09945 – 8/23/1961
Nordyke, Susan – 10637 – 8/5/1961
Nordyke, Gretchen – 10638- 8/5/1961
Obama, Barack – 10641- 8/4/1961
Waidelich, Stig – 10920- 8/5/1961
By Zullo's account, every single Hawaiian BC ever released, even those released by Birthers, is a forgery.

Still waiting for the "breathtaking" part.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:27 PM
 
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By Zullo's account, every single Hawaiian BC ever released, even those released by Birthers, is a forgery.
No, he's just reporting Hawaii's laws that let virtually anyone claim a birth in Hawaii regardless of the actual circumstances of said birth.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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Turns out the coded numbers on Obama's BC don't match the data in the respective fields. Hmmm...
Actually, that's not even close to true. He admitted that there was no code for "African." He did not say one way or another for University. And he did not tell us if there was any other code available for "Other."

It sounds to me (based on the presentation) that the coding is exactly correct.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:29 PM
 
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Impeach Obama!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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No, he's just reporting Hawaii's laws that let virtually anyone claim a birth in Hawaii regardless of the actual circumstances of said birth.
The point he has left out: Hawaiian issued does not equal Hawaiian born. The place of birth is still on the certificate, and a Hawaiian birth certificate for somebody born in Bali will say "Bali" not "Kapiolani Medical Center."
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:34 PM
 
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The point he has left out: Hawaiian issued does not equal Hawaiian born. The place of birth is still on the certificate, and a Hawaiian birth certificate for somebody born in Bali will say "Bali" not "Kapiolani Medical Center."
And that the law in question wasn't passed until 1982.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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And that the law in question wasn't passed until 1982.
Zullo insists that it was unofficial before then.

Convenient, eh?
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