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People who do this have an agenda. What they really want is to be arrested and then sue. There have been many wrongful arrest lawsuit settlements well up into the 6 figures. What these lawsuits usually have in common is that the plaintiffs did their best to provoke the cops into arresting them e.g. aggressively interfering while the police are making an arrest and creating a dangerous situation. These people deserve to go it alone if they ever need a cop. These phonies and their attorneys just want to put their hands into the taxpayers' pockets. True patriots!
People have yard sales to make money so cops can come harass them just to sue them? I doubt it highly. She was smart in videotaping them. We have heard what happens to people who don't have that luxury of filming the cops,they end up dead or beaten or arrested with no proof of what happened.
Its still her private property. It doesn't matter if its in "public view" my car is in public view when I go to walmart its still MY private property and it can't be entered unless I give permission. They put that uniform on and they think they are above the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. If he had a question about the guns why didn't he calmly ask the woman if she was selling weapons on her property or not,he didn't he stomped on to private property and started handling things that were not his and he did not have permission to handle. Obviously she has dealt with SJPD's abuse of power before.
Not to mention it was the outdoors area of an apartment complex. The real owner of that "private property" is the landlord.
The whole thing is fairly ridiculous, but it plays well with paranoid conservatives who - let's face it - are susceptible to believing absolutely anything and feeling threatened by it.
SJPD are really horrible people when they put their life on the line responding to a neighborhood shooting or robbery. The heart cringes when they respond to car accidents and coordinate aid, cleanup, and traffic re-routing. They are also vile, disgusting storm troopers when they help manage traffic and pedestrian safety on game days around HP Pavilion. We should definitely not allow such abuses of power.
The whole thing is fairly ridiculous, but it plays well with paranoid conservatives who - let's face it - are susceptible to believing absolutely anything and feeling threatened by it.
How in the world does a thread about cops and garage sales have anything to do with politics or ideology?
He ILLEGALLY came onto someone's property so yes. He wasn't asked to come on the property,he didn't ask if they were selling real weapons he just assumed and stomped on the property like the storm trooper he is and started grabbing and playing with expensive air soft guns. I would suggest that woman move out of commiefornia especially when an idiot neighbor can't tell the difference between airsoft guns and real guns.
It wasn't her property, it belonged to the apartment complex owner. And who needs to be "invited" to a garage sale? Isn't having the sale an open invitation to browse throught the merchandise?
I agree with what others have said. Something is fishy about this whole thing.
Its still her private property. It doesn't matter if its in "public view" my car is in public view when I go to walmart its still MY private property and it can't be entered unless I give permission. They put that uniform on and they think they are above the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. If he had a question about the guns why didn't he calmly ask the woman if she was selling weapons on her property or not,he didn't he stomped on to private property and started handling things that were not his and he did not have permission to handle. Obviously she has dealt with SJPD's abuse of power before.
Read any Supreme Court decisions lately? LEO can walk a dog around your parked vehicle in Wal-Mart, keep in mind it's a walk-around, not a sniff, but if the dog alerts and you have something illegal, you'll be cuffed.
Orly? Guess you don't understand the bill of rights then. ILLEGAL SEARCH and seizure for one.
Here we go again...
Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
The 4th Amendment does not require that all searches require a warrant, they that they are reasonable in scope, with the caveat that if a warrant is needed it can only be based upon probable cause. As has been pointed out, this sale taking place in plain sight of the public (if the sale had been taking place in their apartment or fenced in back yard they might have had an argument). The possible illegal sale of firearms is more than enough probable cause for the officers to access the area of their "property" in plain sight (if indeed it was their property and not a common area of the apartment complex) and conduct an investigation.
Now before you get all weak at the knees, let me assure you that I will assert my 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments at the drop of the hat, which includes refusing when stopped for any reason to explain my presence presence, my activities, or where I have come from or where I am going, and I NEVER consent to a search regardless of the circumstances. But that comes from a true understanding of what my rights are and not what I imagine them to be.
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