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What would you do if it was YOUR child/mother/son/wife/husband on the line and you needed to save him/her/them??
I hear a lot of people say "waterboarding is wrong, it is torture", but the minute it is their kid, wife, husband, father, mother, friend, cousin on the line - live or die at the hands of criminals and terrorists, they want to torture, beat, kill... do whatever it is to save that person.
So why can't the IS government waterboard people who are planning not to kill just 1 person, but possibly thousands of Americans?? Aren't they someone else's child/mother/husband/etc???
How come the TERRORIST has the right to be protected and the US citizen has no right to be protected from terrorists??
Is anyone here naive enough to think terrorists who hate Americans, Christians, and Jews more than anything in the world will just spill their beans without coersion??? You would have to live in candyland if you can't grasp the obvious fact that terrorists need to be roughed up so they will talk!
We are NOT talking about roughing up criminal suspects or tax violators or unruly kids. We are talkiing cold blooded killers, like Osama Bin Laden, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, etc. Mass murderers that make the BTK killer look like a really nice guy! These Islamo Fascists are killers, man. Think a killer will talk because they like you?? COME ON!!
I wanna know if there is anyone here who thinks terrorists will talk without coersion.
So let's hear it from you guys and let's get some votes in! Thanks!
The world isn't an action movie... you don't make laws based on 24 episodes. If someone discovered himself in that situation, he'd probably be more concerned with "being a hero" than with whether or not he was going to jail. If you took away the consequences for "special cases," however, it could be abused very easily and it wouldn't be just "nuke is going off in 24 hours" people doing the torture.
Where is the "National RIGHT" to be protected from a nuclear attack thread?
Of course it's not fair. It's also not fair that my area is like a terrorist attack waiting to happen.
5 Naval Bases - one being the home of the SEALS, one being the Master Jet Base, One being the largest Naval Base in the world, one is a major weapons station, and the other is a shipyard
2 Army Bases - One being a Ranger training ground/base, and the other is just a normal army base
1 Air Force Base - Ever heard of Langley and the dealings with NASA?
And we only recently found out that our building was still up to code about the whole "survive a nuclear attack" when they ran tests.
Of course it's not fair. It's also not fair that my area is like a terrorist attack waiting to happen.
5 Naval Bases - one being the home of the SEALS, one being the Master Jet Base, One being the largest Naval Base in the world, one is a major weapons station, and the other is a shipyard
2 Army Bases - One being a Ranger training ground/base, and the other is just a normal army base
1 Air Force Base - Ever heard of Langley and the dealings with NASA?
And we only recently found out that our building was still up to code about the whole "survive a nuclear attack" when they ran tests.
So you know all about those aliens that we found ha?
Depends... is the threat imminent and real... or something that is just perceived without real discrimination? Is China a threat to the U.S. economy? Should we waterboard them? What about all the CEOs and embezzlers out there? They make millions to billions by cheating, lying, and stealing... that dollar amount is enough to "kill" many peoiple... should waterboard them to, to make them confess? There is a limit and because you don't want to set a limit, doesn't imply that you always correct. We have brains, and we use them to judge the situation... in the case of the government using waterboarding... well, some oppose it because it is NOT enough to warrant it because the threat is NOT real as you may think it is... I don't listen to propaganda but use my own judgment.
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