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Old 08-08-2012, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey
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And others who can't because of infertility.
Correct. I was just focusing on those who choose to not have any because they don't want any.

 
Old 08-08-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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Having children isn't a requirement for marriage. There are tons of married couples who choose not to have them.
true, but the mother and father symbolise nature, in this instance.

Therefore that is ok.

but the s.s couple symbolise nothing.

Therfore that is not ok.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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Correct. I was just focusing on those who choose to not have any because they don't want any.
It is not relevant here anyway.

Man and woman were made to have children together, man and man were not.

It's very simple.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 08:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda View Post
true, but the mother and father symbolise nature, in this instance.

Therefore that is ok.

but the s.s couple symbolise nothing.

Therfore that is not ok.
So you think love and commitment is nothing?
 
Old 08-08-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda View Post
true, but the mother and father symbolise nature, in this instance.

Therefore that is ok.

but the s.s couple symbolise nothing.

Therfore that is not ok.
According to whom - you??

Thankfully most people are capable of forming their own opinions, and I'm pretty sure the same-sex couples feel they symbolize more than just "biological breeders." They can also stand for love, commitment, mutual trust and respect, dignity, contributions to their community, family and friends, etc, etc. Are these not important qualities in your opinion?
 
Old 08-08-2012, 09:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Trackwatch View Post
When sex between consenting adults is thought of as dirty or evil the result is the dysfunction seen in a few of the posters in this thread, I am NOT speaking of those that support same sex marriage.
You guys invoke these 'consenting adults' as if the law did not punish incest even between consenting adults...
And yes, adalturous sex is evil even between the consenting adults...
 
Old 08-08-2012, 09:25 PM
 
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According to whom - you??

Thankfully most people are capable of forming their own opinions, and I'm pretty sure the same-sex couples feel they symbolize more than just "biological breeders." They can also stand for love, commitment, mutual trust and respect, dignity, contributions to their community, family and friends, etc, etc. Are these not important qualities in your opinion?
Very important but not important enough to disregard the fact that same-sex couple are unnatural and against a few thousand years old tradition.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda View Post
marriage reflects nature's work - ie: the production of children.

this is why we have it.

marriage helps the natural family unit stay together.

so in the case of the s.s scenario, it is not necessary.
How does marriage reflect the production of children. You don't have to be married to have a child. A marriage does not ensure a family staying together, or have you not heard of divorce. What does divorce reflect? If marriage reflects natures work, then divorce must do so as well.

The purpose of marriage was to bind women to men, to guarantee that a man’s children were truly his biological heirs. Through marriage, a woman became a man’s property. That is all, it wasn't to fulfill some divine family unit or natures calling.

You don't understand the concepts of love or commitment do you?
 
Old 08-08-2012, 09:33 PM
 
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Very important but not important enough to disregard the fact that same-sex couple are unnatural and against a few thousand years old tradition.
I hate to break it to you but there have been same sex couples for as long as there have been people so your not natural argument is defeated by nature. How ironic
 
Old 08-08-2012, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda View Post
true, but the mother and father symbolise nature, in this instance.

Therefore that is ok.

but the s.s couple symbolise nothing.

Therfore that is not ok.
You don't understand symbolism do you?

Marriage is the symbol of love and commitment, it used to be a symbol of ownership and wealth, but we moved past those ignorant and barbaric times... sort of, ok not really as we all know how ignorant and barbaric some people can be. But the concept of marriage and what it symbolizes has changed.

Marriage = love and commitment.

In the case of same-sex marriage is means everything. It might even mean more, as they know what they will have to endure because of how some people are too ignorant because they are blinded by their beliefs and ignore actual evidence.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda View Post
It is not relevant here anyway.

Man and woman were made to have children together, man and man were not.

It's very simple.
What my wife and I decide not to have kids? Does this mean we are unnatural?
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