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Old 08-09-2012, 08:05 AM
 
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you seemed to have left out intravenous drug users and hetro's who practice unsafe sex. or do you need to get education on how to catch aids? sure sounds like it.

Percentage wise no other group has been affected in the US as the sodomites.

 
Old 08-09-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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I agree nobody should be that ignorant as not to understand that what leads to sex is not just the sexual act or foreplay. Women shaving their hair, guys going to the gym, worker advancing though the ranks it all leads to greater availability of partners and sex. Freud.
What has this got to do with the topic?
 
Old 08-09-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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Do you really lack basic logical skills? Everything animals (and we do) serves survival of the species.
When animals play they often do so increase their strength and coordination. Being fit and able to obtain food for yourself and your offspring is one of the criteria of being useful for the evolution.
Sexual prerogative makes some animals grow colorful feathers and seemingly unnecessary parts of their bodies. All life is about mating and offspring as this is our biological prerogative.

Except for gays, but this is where nature decided that your genetic material is useless and not worthy of propagating.
Do I lack logic skills? Lets find out. Hey folks, do you think I lack an understanding of logic? You on the other hand lack basic understanding of biology and human and animal behavior. My cats wrestle all the time, but they do so to show dominance, in the end one of them usually ends up humping the other and they become "top cat".

log·ic/ˈläjik/

Noun:
  • Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity: "experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic".
  • A particular system or codification of the principles of proof and inference: "Aristotelian logic".


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The same reasoning can be applied to the infertile hetero couple that the s.s brigade somehow think is a trump card.

Apart from what I've already mentioned, we can see that the infertile couple here acts as encouragement for other hetero singles to form a partnership and have natural children together.
What planet do you live on? When I see a couple I don't get encouraged to form a partnership and have children.

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Ha ha ha. And this is from a guy who claims any knowledge about history. What you just typed is a typical example of anachronism.
Really? Listen here Pathicus, what does anachronism have to do with anything that I said? If you deny what I said, prove it wrong. But anyone who understands history and how society works know what I said is true.

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The laws do not change because "we understand things more", our XXI century laws would not do much good in XVI century England even if enforced, laws are reflection of the will of general population... It's understanding of morality.
Why would we change laws then? Laws of ancient Rome wouldn't serve us very well because we have a better understanding of things. Why do you think the general population would reflect laws a particular way? Could it be based on what they understand?

Listen Scultimidonus, So far you have misrepresented history with false claims, then you post more false claims about biology and behavior, now you are posting false claims about morality, philosophy, and how laws are formed.

Do you have any evidence to support anything you claim, empirical is preferred? Unless you start supporting your claims with valid unbiased evidence, you are simply being intellectually dishonest and willfully ignorant.

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you seemed to have left out intravenous drug users and hetro's who practice unsafe sex. or do you need to get education on how to catch aids? sure sounds like it.
Of course they did, cause if they addressed that it would undermine their argument. Notice how they also never have any form of evidence for the things they claim?
 
Old 08-09-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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Percentage wise no other group has been affected in the US as the sodomites.

And so based on what you are trying to pass off as logic... since LESBIANS (also "homosexuals") have been least affected by AIDS, you would support that lesbian sex is the best sex.


Also, since minority populations are more likely to contract HIV across the sexuality spectrum, you would also support restricting minorities from adopting and marrying.




The incessant focus of anti-gays on male homosexuals is very puzzling to most normal people out there. You guys obsess about male gay sex more than gay men!
 
Old 08-09-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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Percentage wise no other group has been affected in the US as the sodomites.
Statistical data? Empirical evidence? Any sort of records?
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  • 52-96% of all HIV infections may be transmitted during the period before seroconversion.
  • 90% of all AIDS deaths happen with people under the age of 50
  • 90% of HIV infections that occur among homosexual males occur through anal intercourse.
  • 90% of worldwide HIV transmission occurs in heterosexual people.
  • After acute illness, individuals infected with HIV can remain symptom free from 6 months to 11 years.
  • Over 30,000,000 people are infected with HIV worldwide and there are 16,000 new cases each day.
  • The majority of HIV related AIDS cases occur before the age of 35.
STD Statistics - STD Symptoms, HIV Statistics
 
Old 08-09-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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I can sum up the answer to the gay debate right now.

Are you a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, or transgender? Are you planning on marrying someone of the same sex? Are you in a same-sex relationship and trying to adopt?

If you answered No to these question, you can safely assume that your opinion in this matter means absolutely nothing as it has nothing to do with you.

Now, unless you want atheist dictating what your religion can or can't do, or you want homosexuals deciding laws restricting heterosexuals form doing something, giving an opinion or forming laws on a subject that has nothing to do with you is idiotic.
 
Old 08-09-2012, 09:17 AM
 
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Statistical data? Empirical evidence? Any sort of records?


STD Statistics - STD Symptoms, HIV Statistics

So now you want to prove that you can't read as well?

Read again:


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Percentage wise no other group has been affected in the US as the sodomites.
 
Old 08-09-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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So now you want to prove that you can't read as well?
And you came up with this how?
 
Old 08-09-2012, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Statistical data? Empirical evidence? Any sort of records?


STD Statistics - STD Symptoms, HIV Statistics
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And you came up with this how?
He only looks at US and/or western civilizations that he approves of. Worldwide HIV statistics would be meaningless. In the US, he is correct that homosexual men have a higher prevalence (and rate of contraction) of HIV/AIDS than heterosexual men. The fallacy of his reasoning, is that he merely pins the cause completely on the sexuality instead of looking at the entire picture of why and how the situation happens.

The other fallacy is that he only looks at HIV/AIDS whereas there are other STD's out there.
 
Old 08-09-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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I can sum up the answer to the gay debate right now.

Are you a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, or transgender? Are you planning on marrying someone of the same sex? Are you in a same-sex relationship and trying to adopt?

If you answered No to these question, you can safely assume that your opinion in this matter means absolutely nothing as it has nothing to do with you.

Now, unless you want atheist dictating what your religion can or can't do, or you want homosexuals deciding laws restricting heterosexuals form doing something, giving an opinion or forming laws on a subject that has nothing to do with you is idiotic.

They just think homosexuals are icky. That is all they need to justify their hate and ignorance.
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