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Old 07-10-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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Poll: Voters want Arizona-style immigration laws for their states


The latest The Washington Times/JZ Analytics survey, released Monday night, found about two-thirds of all likely voters would like to see their own police be able to check status during routine traffic stops. Support was high across most demographics, including self-identified Republicans and independents, and even Hispanics favored the policy by a 55 percent to 41 percent margin.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Meanwhile over 70% didn't give a rats *ss that Obama gave them amnesty.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:02 PM
 
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Poll: Voters want Arizona-style immigration laws for their states


The latest The Washington Times/JZ Analytics survey, released Monday night, found about two-thirds of all likely voters would like to see their own police be able to check status during routine traffic stops. Support was high across most demographics, including self-identified Republicans and independents, and even Hispanics favored the policy by a 55 percent to 41 percent margin.
Do you have a link for the actual survey results? Unfortunately, even after reading the article, I have concerns that The Washington Times would be keen to bias the poll or cherry pick the results.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:02 PM
 
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Poll: Voters want Arizona-style immigration laws for their states


The latest The Washington Times/JZ Analytics survey, released Monday night, found about two-thirds of all likely voters would like to see their own police be able to check status during routine traffic stops. Support was high across most demographics, including self-identified Republicans and independents, and even Hispanics favored the policy by a 55 percent to 41 percent margin.
Of course. Most people are sick of the illegal immigration fiasco.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:05 PM
 
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Meanwhile over 70% didn't give a rats *ss that Obama gave them amnesty.
I don't think it's over 70% according to most polls. Still, support for his move is pretty high (I think in the 60's).

I think people have empathy for young illegals brought here by their parents as children through no fault of their own, but they are still sick and tired of the illegal immigration fiasco in general.

While I don't support Obama's move, I understand why people do. And it certainly wasn't a blanket amnesty.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Not if they depend on illegal labor. Agricultural states who have adopted the Arizona laws have come to regret it deeply, and many have seen Arizona as an example to avoid. The same is true in a lot of the trades, which came to depend on the cheap labor as the only way of making profits in down-turned trades and industries.

Small towns are hit hardest by the Arizona laws. These towns are often the only affordable places for illegals to live, and they trade where they live, just as we all do. When a major population base leaves, a small town can fail fast these days, and have, in all the states that used Arizona as an example. This includes Arizona.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Not if they depend on illegal labor. Agricultural states who have adopted the Arizona laws have come to regret it deeply, and many have seen Arizona as an example to avoid. The same is true in a lot of the trades, which came to depend on the cheap labor as the only way of making profits in down-turned trades and industries.

Small towns are hit hardest by the Arizona laws. These towns are often the only affordable places for illegals to live, and they trade where they live, just as we all do. When a major population base leaves, a small town can fail fast these days, and have, in all the states that used Arizona as an example. This includes Arizona.
Sure
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:22 PM
 
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Not if they depend on illegal labor. Agricultural states who have adopted the Arizona laws have come to regret it deeply, and many have seen Arizona as an example to avoid. The same is true in a lot of the trades, which came to depend on the cheap labor as the only way of making profits in down-turned trades and industries.

Small towns are hit hardest by the Arizona laws. These towns are often the only affordable places for illegals to live, and they trade where they live, just as we all do. When a major population base leaves, a small town can fail fast these days, and have, in all the states that used Arizona as an example. This includes Arizona.
Then gee, maybe they should go the legal path and use migrant workers who have permission to be here.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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Then gee, maybe they should go the legal path and use migrant workers who have permission to be here.
And that's the root of the entire problem. If the US ever gets up to snuff in making legal entry reasonably fast and easy, we would have no need for the illegals. They wouldn't need to enter illegally either.

As it is, getting a 6-month work visa requires over a 6-month wait at least, and more commonly takes as long as 3 years. There was a time, over 30 years ago, when legal migrants came and went with the crops, and there weren't a ton of problems. Some stayed, some continued to prefer going back home, and neither was a big deal.

We can do it again, but it's going to take everyone deciding to do the easy and legal way for a change. Right now, too many of us prefer closing our borders with fences and armed patrols than to got to work and be willing to spend the same money on better ways for all of us. Obviously, Congress would need to be whipped over the head until they got to work, too.

I find it odd; Americans once deplored the Soviet Union for doing those same things.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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And that's the root of the entire problem. If the US ever gets up to snuff in making legal entry reasonably fast and easy, we would have no need for the illegals. They wouldn't need to enter illegally either.

As it is, getting a 6-month work visa requires over a 6-month wait at least, and more commonly takes as long as 3 years. There was a time, over 30 years ago, when legal migrants came and went with the crops, and there weren't a ton of problems. Some stayed, some continued to prefer going back home, and neither was a big deal.

We can do it again, but it's going to take everyone deciding to do the easy and legal way for a change. Right now, too many of us prefer closing our borders with fences and armed patrols than to got to work and be willing to spend the same money on better ways for all of us. Obviously, Congress would need to be whipped over the head until they got to work, too.

I find it odd; Americans once deplored the Soviet Union for doing those same things.
I agree.
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