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Old 07-11-2012, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Anyone babbling about "Agenda 21" can rightly be automatically dismissed as a crack pot loon in a tin foil hat.
It is worth repeating this truism.
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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LOL. No one is being forced. Just give it time. You people are really blind. Read up on agenda 21 and you will see what plans they have for you. If you fall in line like good little soldiers all the better.
LOL. Okay, thanks Mr. "Reality".
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:26 PM
 
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God, you guys are amazing at finding the most petty things to ***** about. But what can you expect when a group says that the First Lady advocating healthier food for kids is some tyrannical oppression. Healthier eating doing good for our bodies has only been the across the board consensus since...well, ever...
Quite a stretch to get in your personal attacks and divert the thread off topic with false claims.

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It is worth repeating this truism.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/86570692/A...LE-DEVELOPMENT
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I hope you never have the cojones to complain about elitist attitudes from those big city folks, since you've shown quite an acumen for elitism yourself.

BTW, are you saying that big cities aren't part of the real world?
If KUchief25 is not saying it, then I will. City critters have little or no concept of the real world. If their meat did not come cellophane-wrapped from a grocery store they would starve to death. They have insulated themselves from reality with infrastructure, government services, and "safety nets." This is where the entitlement mentality began and continues to fester, in every major city throughout the nation.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:38 AM
 
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Bloomberg needs to be committed.

Mayor Bloomberg launches contest to stir development of tiny 300-square-foot apartments for singles

Larger than a jail cell, but smaller than mobile home, ministudios will reflect city's changing demographics. They'll be big enough for bathroom, kitchen, sleeping and dining areas



Read more: Mayor Bloomberg launches contest to stir development of tiny 300-square-foot apartments for singles - NY Daily News

Mayor Bloomberg launches contest to stir development of tiny 300-square-foot apartments for singles - NY Daily News
And the fools will continue to vote for him.

Idiots living in 300 sq ft apartments will still look down their noses at what they call "trailer trash", people who live in 3 or 4 times the space and don't need politicians to tell them how they must live.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:42 AM
 
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LOL. No one is being forced. Just give it time. You people are really blind. Read up on agenda 21 and you will see what plans they have for you. If you fall in line like good little soldiers all the better.
Very likely the reason these politicians want unlimited and very massive immigration from 3rd world nations. It's all about jam-packing in as many cheap labor types as possible into small spaces and what's better phan to have Americans compete with those who are accustomed to having 15-20 people, 4 generations living in 200 sq ft of living space?
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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LOL. No one is being forced. Just give it time. You people are really blind. Read up on agenda 21 and you will see what plans they have for you. If you fall in line like good little soldiers all the better.
My next home will be on five acres, and about 400 miles further north. I am finding my current acre to be a bit cramped, and congested. There were only three homes in the subdivision when I built my home, but now the entire subdivision is full. Thankfully, every lot is an acre or larger, but it is still too confining for me.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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If KUchief25 is not saying it, then I will. City critters have little or no concept of the real world. If their meat did not come cellophane-wrapped from a grocery store they would starve to death. They have insulated themselves from reality with infrastructure, government services, and "safety nets." This is where the entitlement mentality began and continues to fester, in every major city throughout the nation.
Wow. Congratulations on writing a comment so stupid that I can't even bother to be offended by it.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:48 AM
 
Location: The Land Mass Between NOLA and Mobile, AL
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I cannot help but wonder why these people are pissed about this. It has to be feigned. If Bloomberg announced that only luxury apartments were to be built that can only be rented or purchased by Wall Street banksters, are we to assume that that would be acceptable to them? They're all FOS!
Nothing in the posted links implies that Bloomberg "wants" people to live in 300 sq' apts.; he just wants more options available for young single people and couples. If you go visit historic sites in NYC like the Tenement Museum, you will realize that 19th- (and 20th- century) immigrants often lived in tenements of about 350 sq' in the LES with families that could have included six to ten people. Laws were passed and put into effect in 1905 that were meant to ease overcrowding and unsanitary conditions in such tenements; modern plumbing, sanitation, electricity, and heating have made such space requirements obsolete. No conspiracy there--if everyone in NY could afford to pay for huge UES apartments, they would, but that's not possible.

I go to NY all the time these days, but while I was an undergraduate in Madison, WI, I rented a 320 sq' apt. for a while which had a teeny bathroom and a combined living, sleeping, and cooking space; it was great to save money on rent and avoid excessive student loans. I'm just posting this to make the point that it is not only big NE cities where there is some demand for small apartments. I had a small love seat that I put up every day and that served as a pull-out bed, and I was able to have two bookshelves against the opposite wall, a kitchenette table that also worked as a desk with my laptop, and I had two extra folding wooden chairs to pull around my table/desk so I could actually have small dinner parties for which I stashed my laptop against one of my bookshelves. My boyfriend at the time helped me make extra shelving everywhere for storing extra bedding, and we even designed a special pull out space for my printer. I used the space between the top of my kitchen cabinets and the ceiling for extra book and paper storage. My love seat/bed looked on to a small TV, and I also had that encased in a storage unit, and on either side of the love seat were two small closets which I absolutely maximized with extra shelving on the one side and an extra closet rod on the other.

All I'm saying is that when one is a young adult, it can be very fun to figure out how to live in a small space. I learned how to cook with literally a foot of counter space, and I am much more efficient in a big kitchen as a result. I am in no way arguing that Madison, WI is a huge metro area, but around the University, space is tight.

I will add to what others have said and say that when you have access to a place like NYC, there are a lot of free or cheap things to do that are within easy walking or public transit distance, so that extends your living space. Why stay home when there is so much to do? You can go to the NY Public Library and do some research or just hang out in Bryant Park, you can go to Central Park, you can go to Riverside Park, The Cloisters, Union Square, Washington Square, Madison Square Park, you can go to museums all over the city, you can people watch anywhere, you can go to the lovely Highline, you can sample food items from food vendors in a lot of areas, you can see free films and concerts in parks, especially in the summer, you can go to a variety of piers and have great views of Brooklyn or NJ, the list goes on and on and on. There is beautiful architecture everywhere and churches everywhere. People in NYC pay their rent in part to have access to wonderful cultural, culinary, and artistic opportunities. It's not all about partying.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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My next home will be on five acres, and about 400 miles further north. I am finding my current acre to be a bit cramped, and congested. There were only three homes in the subdivision when I built my home, but now the entire subdivision is full. Thankfully, every lot is an acre or larger, but it is still too confining for me.
Fantastic! You have the freedom to choose this. Just like others have the freedom to choose a dinky apartment in NYC. It's a win-win for everyone, but somehow you see this as a bad thing.
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