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Old 07-11-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I would argue that the false accusations of racism are themselves a backdoor form of racism.
Only if they are false. I surely hope you don't take every accusation of racism as false?
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Only if they are false. I surely hope you don't take every accusation of racism as false?
That is the point - when "racism" is bandied about where it does not exist - it makes a mockery of and marginilizes actual racism. The word loses real meaning when it is used improperly. Real racism does exist - but the race-baiters are destroying any possibility of rooting it out by making false claims and utilizing the race card as a tool of squelching debate and discussion.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The problem that many on the right don't see is that they constantly open themselves up for the accusation. Newt Gingrich, ron paul, the teap aprty, rick santorum, bachmann all made comments that could be seen as racist. The voter ID laws, trying to eliminate entitlements, trying to change history in school textbooks to eliminate slavery, recently the tea party having the confederate flag in a parade. This is just in the last few years. The repubicans constantly give the ability to throw it around.

So do you apply the same standard to Democrats who say things that 'could be seen as racist.' For example, Barack Obama's use of the phrase "typical white person,' or Biden's remark about Obama being a 'clean' African-American, or Harry Reid's comment about being 'light skinned' and having 'no Negro dialect?'

Or do you apply the standard only when it happens to conveniently align with your political outlook?
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:36 PM
 
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This is exactly what I described, the charge is designed to shut down all dissent. Also the above argument could be described as racist using the posters logic. Voter ID for example. Why does the poster view this as racist? Are AA somehow inferior to whites in their ability to comply with the law? This is of course a ridiculous position, yet one those who describe the law as racist take.
the problem is the intent behind the vote ID laws. If blacks voted for republicans or we split our vote evenly between the two parties, there would be no voter ID laws. The laws were put into place, by republicans to give them an advantage in the election. The republicans can hide behind this idea that there is so much voter fraud and thats why the law was created.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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[quote=wutitiz;25122196]I would argue that the false accusations of racism are themselves a backdoor form of racism. My reasoning is that the false accusation tactic predictably creates racism in two ways: a) those who are falsely accused are likely to become inflamed. At minimum they're not going to be motivated to work towards MLK's dream. b) bystanders who mistakenly buy into the false accusations are going to be inflamed. If a race-baiter can convince people that there's a racist hiding under every rock & leaf, trust is eroded, and again progress towards MLK's dream is halted.

What is interesting (and appalling) to me is that these false accusations are so common, even right here on CD. In a recent thread about a column by Ted Nugent, a poster said " Nuge would rather live in a nation with black people in chains" even though Nugent said, or even implied no such thing. Another poster dependably posts something almost every week accusing the the Tea Party of being racism.

Then there are a few famous cases that I have posted where lefty pundits had to outright admit that they were using the tactic of 'call them racist' to advance a political agenda. One example was blogger Spencer Ackerman, another is lefty gadfly Mary Frances. There are other examples. The death of teenager Trayvon Martin alone spawned untold numbers of examples.

Mary Frances Berry's response to 'Contracting out U.S. security? And will branding tea party 'racist' work?' - The Arena | POLITICO.COM
Documents show media plotting to kill stories about Rev. Jeremiah Wright | The Daily Caller

Something to think about as we head into an election that is likely to feature no shortage of accusations of racism from the left.[/quote

You really need to read "Rules for Radicals". It all becomes abundantly clear.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Is Pretending There is No Racisim on the Right a Racist Tactic Itself?







Don't you ever worry about embarrassing yourself?
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Only if they are false. I surely hope you don't take every accusation of racism as false?

The burden of proof should be on the accuser. If the accuser does not have the evidence, then I am going to assume the accusation to be false. Innocent till proven guilty, no?
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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the problem is the intent behind the vote ID laws. If blacks voted for republicans or we split our vote evenly between the two parties, there would be no voter ID laws. The laws were put into place, by republicans to give them an advantage in the election. The republicans can hide behind this idea that there is so much voter fraud and thats why the law was created.
lol. Let me tell you something. If you told all these "supposed" people who can't get an ID that there is a free check waiting for them at the nearest wherever, but all you need is a photo ID to get the free money, these people would have one within a few hours.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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The burden of proof should be on the accuser. If the accuser does not have the evidence, then I am going to assume the accusation to be false. Innocent till proven guilty, no?
Great. See my previous post with pictures. Please explain how the accusation of racisim is false here?
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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So do you apply the same standard to Democrats who say things that 'could be seen as racist.' For example, Barack Obama's use of the phrase "typical white person,' or Biden's remark about Obama being a 'clean' African-American, or Harry Reid's comment about being 'light skinned' and having 'no Negro dialect?'

Or do you apply the standard only when it happens to conveniently align with your political outlook?
when democrats are trying to change slavery in textbooks, start writing racist newsletters, tell white people they'll try to stop blacks from taking their money, tell blacks to ask for paychecks not food stamps, have a confederate flag in a parade, and signs a pledge stating that black kids were better off as slaves, we'll call them out.
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