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Old 07-12-2012, 01:34 AM
 
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That is the problem. Our society has cheapened marriage to JUST a contract. It's not considered sacred anymore or anything special. Sad. It started when married people threw their marriage into the garbage anytime they felt like it. Adultery, cheating and not caring about their marriage or partner, so it has denigrated into not much at all.

We don't want to bring it back to the sacred, special column, that would be too hard, so it continues to go to hell.
You can label it with any adjective you and the other party wish, but marriage is a contract. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Its up to the parties involved in that contract how seriously they take the terms. And again ones sexual orientation has no bearing on their ability to enter into a contract.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Why don't you tell me how it DID start then - and prove it?
It is called Evolution. Look it up sometime. Here is a decent start.

How Did Life Begin?
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It is called Evolution. Look it up sometime. Here is a decent start.

How Did Life Begin?
That is funny - most evolutionists tell me that evolution has nothing to do with abiogenesis.

Oh well - OK - so it is evolution - can you prove it?
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:49 AM
 
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I've heard that here are people who have sex with animals. Should they have a right to marry that animal? Legalizing same sex marriage would open a pandoras box that can never be closed.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:50 AM
 
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You can label it with any adjective you and the other party wish, but marriage is a contract. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Its up to the parties involved in that contract how seriously they take the terms. And again ones sexual orientation has no bearing on their ability to enter into a contract.
A contract, yes, a marriage, no. Marriage should be more than JUST a contract.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:52 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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Absolute and utter balderdash. Marriage is basically a contract between willing parties.
You mean like a rental agreement or a service warranty? That's it?

Thanks for proving what the same-sex "marriage" agenda is really all about: reducing and degrading all marriages to the level of a financial transaction.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:23 AM
 
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A contract, yes, a marriage, no. Marriage should be more than JUST a contract.
It is more than a legal contract of the state to people of faith. It is a sacrament where the pledges made are to be kept with God. Secular humanists would like you to believe otherwise in their attempts to reduce marriage to a piece of paper to be judged in a state court.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:34 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I've heard that here are people who have sex with animals. Should they have a right to marry that animal? Legalizing same sex marriage would open a pandoras box that can never be closed.
You point of concern fails vastly. This is because animals don't know how to sign a marriage license. Besides, are they including animals in legal marriages in the Scandinavian countries after same sex marriage over there has been legal for decades? The answer is NO!
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:41 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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It is more than a legal contract of the state to people of faith. It is a sacrament where the pledges made are to be kept with God.
Very true, MOgal. But I think we really have to insist that marriage is more than a legal contract, period, and not merely for people of faith but for anyone who wants to be married. Natural marriage between non-Christians - whether made before a judge or the officials of their own religion - is not strictly sacramental but it is still a metaphysical reality, instituted by God (whether they acknowledge Him or not), first for the procreation and education of children, and second for the mystical union of man and woman in which "the two become one flesh".

The objective reality of marriage is prior to the state: it is something the state recognizes rather than defines. That the state has already degraded marriage by its liberal permission for divorce is not an excuse to degrade it still further!
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:01 AM
 
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The slope is slippery...
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