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Old 07-12-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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Would a very healthy, active, athletic person who's smoked marijuana for 40 years count?

30 years here lots of hard worky, puff, puff..
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Southern NC
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A symptom of marijuana intoxication is tachycardia. You may have measured your heart rate several hours after intoxication, but it is a commonly known side effect.
Wonder why you NEVER hear of any deaths related to ONLY smoking Marijuana?
I've been around users my entire life...no one has ever had issues or death related to pot.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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30 years here lots of hard worky, puff, puff..
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Wonder why you NEVER hear of any deaths related to ONLY smoking Marijuana?
I've been around users my entire life...no one has ever had issues or death related to pot.
Took the words right out...
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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Wonder why you NEVER hear of any deaths related to ONLY smoking Marijuana?
I've been around users my entire life...no one has ever had issues or death related to pot.
I understand this. I just feel like people should be aware of potential probelms. That's all.

I want people to be safe. My thread isn't about the legality. There are plenty of things that are legal that cause serious health problems.

I acknowledge that, but I do think more studies need to be conducted.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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I understand this. I just feel like people should be aware of potential probelms. That's all.

I want people to be safe. My thread isn't about the legality. There are plenty of things that are legal that cause serious health problems.

I acknowledge that, but I do think more studies need to be conducted.


beaples been smoking pot for milenia, good enough research for me
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:07 PM
 
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beaples been smoking pot for milenia, good enough research for me
But nobody wants to walk around with a pacemaker if they don't have to. And the only way they can know the level of risk associated with it is through documented study.

But incedentally, you're right. I don't know of many people who have pace makers and things of that nature who are pot smokers, but I don't know many pot smokers, (at least to my knowledge).
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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But Del Boy......their may/maynot be "potential" problems from pretty well anything you do in life...don't you think?...It's very nice that you "want people to be safe"....but there really is no need for studies when there is living/breathing/walking "proof" all around us....I can't see how wasting money on a "study" is going to open the eyes of anyone who prefers to keep them closed.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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This thread isn't about legality issues.

It's just that most of the people that I know who use marijuana are chronic smokers. Some of them are athletes who smoke before they excercise.

I don't want anybody to unwittingly experience heart problems because they don't know the truth about this particular substance.

People often assume that marijuana is practically harmless. Many people smoke it everyday.

If it does cause cardiovascular problems, especially problems that could be signficant, people need to know about them.

How would you like if someone close to you had to be fitted with a pacemaker because they were smoking everyday under the illusion that marijuana is safe.

I mean, think about it. You can get marijuana with high enough potency to the point to where the amount of smoke they take in per day may be less than a ciggerate.

They may rationalize to themselves that it's safe because they aren't smoking very much per day.

Additionally, regardless of whether or not they smoke the substance, even if you eat it, it still causes tachycardia. People may use it and think it's harmless because they are not smoking it, only to find out years later they have developed signficant cardiovascular problems.

This isn't fair for people. I don't care what your agenda is on the legality of marijuana.

I just want people to know the TRUTH. They deserve to know the TRUTH.

Another (supported?) spokesperson morally obliged to do the great work of the virtuous Health Industrial Complex. Their conglomerated truth is that what we don't make what is bad for you (other than side effects and made-up ailments) but what we approve and suggest we manufacture ourselves, and governments agree due to taxation and regulatory control. Profit is the new wonder drug just as it was before it became improved through official corporate channels. Lawyers can be ever-so Shakespearean.

Do you work for UCSF, CDC or some other such nanny-statist/research grant-mongering entity?

I wonder about the moral background of the types of people who go on righteous, health-induced Crusades. Are they lib or con, religious or other, do they honestly believe that they will save people or are they operating off of a sense of vengeful revenge?

All life ends in death and while we are here we must live, and sadly, that is defined differently amongst so many 'thoughtful' people.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:38 PM
 
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I understand this. I just feel like people should be aware of potential probelms. That's all.

I want people to be safe. My thread isn't about the legality. There are plenty of things that are legal that cause serious health problems.

I acknowledge that, but I do think more studies need to be conducted.
I think more research needs to be done to figure out why big Pharma sells meds that could potentially cause deadly side effects.
The meds they wanted to prescribe me for RA can potentially cause lymphoma and other cancers...as a matter of fact, most meds come with potential side effects that are much worse than your original problem.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:03 PM
 
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It is always a good idea to have your in your pocket when you're using, because you might need it to call the paramedics.
Nobody has EVER died from smoking too much marijuana. I think your a great poster, but I don't think marijuana is very dangerous.
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