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Old 07-12-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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No, we should not ban pitbulls. We should strengthen our laws that penalize the dog owners.

As for the dogs themselves---

Punish the deed, not the breed.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:49 PM
 
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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I say we outlaw stupid, but that'll never happen.

Dog was bred to fight and bite, it's only doing what we bred it for... however, I'm a firm believer that a dog's behavior is 10% nature and 90% nurture (owner.) People only get pits to look tough, to fight them, etc... when in reality a pit that's had proper training, discipline, and socialization with other animals is far, far more likely to attempt to lick you to death. Nature can be overcome with good, consistent training and discipline.

Idea: if your dog attacks someone or another dog and grievously or fatally injures them, you should be on the hook for a fine plus whatever damages are brought against you. Might be a good deterrent...
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:30 PM
 
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I say we outlaw stupid, but that'll never happen.

Dog was bred to fight and bite, it's only doing what we bred it for... however, I'm a firm believer that a dog's behavior is 10% nature and 90% nurture (owner.) People only get pits to look tough, to fight them, etc... when in reality a pit that's had proper training, discipline, and socialization with other animals is far, far more likely to attempt to lick you to death. Nature can be overcome with good, consistent training and discipline.

Idea: if your dog attacks someone or another dog and grievously or fatally injures them, you should be on the hook for a fine plus whatever damages are brought against you. Might be a good deterrent...
Yeah, just as prison terms and capital punishment are deterrents to crimes and why our jails are so empty

A harsher consequence for the dog's owner is of little solace to an innocent bystander that gets mauled or killed by a breed whose chemistry and personality was bred to keep on fighting and attacking once the instinct is ignited.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:40 PM
 
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Agreed.

The real solution is to neuter the genetically defective morons who want them.
Way to overreact

You think I should get rid of my dog that I adopted from a local shelter (she was abused and sick) because you're scared.

Sorry, it's not going to happen. I've had for for 6 years and I plan on keeping her until she passes away.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:55 PM
 
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According to statistics complied at DogsBite.org, pit bulls were responsible for roughly 60 percent of fatal dog bites between January 2006 and December 2008. We're talking fatalities, here, folks. Keep in mind that this dangerous breed of dog makes up only around 5 percent of the pet dog population.

Furthermore, the combination of pit bulls, rottweilers, their close mixes, and wolf hybrids are responsible for 68 percent of fatalities and 77 percent of attacks that cause bodily harm.

I can't prove it, but I'm willing to bet that the owners of pit bulls are also more dangerous than your average citizen. You can tell by their tattoos.

I say we outlaw pit bulls and put the others on notice.
while your at it, you can pry my gun from my cold dead fingers (not). unless of course my bully hasn't taken you out first.

better to go after guys like that Texas sheriff caught a few years back helping to run an extremely large dog fighting group
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:00 PM
 
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Absolutely not...

Pitbulls are not inherently aggressive or violent dogs.. unless you train them that way.

People who fight pits do things like inbreed them, give them steroids, abuse them and just train them to attack.

If you want to get into the disposition of a breed....Siberian Huskies are WAYYY more nutso than any (healthy) pit I have ever met. But yet somehow they get a pass?

It's the owner not the breed.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:02 PM
 
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According to statistics complied at DogsBite.org, pit bulls were responsible for roughly 60 percent of fatal dog bites between January 2006 and December 2008. We're talking fatalities, here, folks. Keep in mind that this dangerous breed of dog makes up only around 5 percent of the pet dog population.

Furthermore, the combination of pit bulls, rottweilers, their close mixes, and wolf hybrids are responsible for 68 percent of fatalities and 77 percent of attacks that cause bodily harm.

I can't prove it, but I'm willing to bet that the owners of pit bulls are also more dangerous than your average citizen. You can tell by their tattoos.

I say we outlaw pit bulls and put the others on notice.

Is this like preemptive wars?

The best dog I have ever had was a pit bull. My 2 labs are way more aggressive than my pit ever was.

I never teased my pit and he always had food in his bowl. He would help you rob my house.
After my mother inlaw demanding we needed to get rid of our pit when our daughter was born, it ended up being her weenie dog that mauled my daughter while staying at grannies, not my pit.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:03 PM
 
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Absolutely not...

Pitbulls are not inherently aggressive or violent dogs.. unless you train them that way.

People who fight pits do things like inbreed them, give them steroids and gunpowder, abuse them and just train them to attack.

If you want to get into the disposition of a breed....Siberian Huskies are WAYYY more nutso than any pit I have ever met. But yet somehow they get a pass?

It's the owner not the breed.
There's a valid reason that they are the breed of choice for dog fighting.....

Scared of Pit Bulls? You’d Better Be! by Brian C. Anderson, City Journal Spring 1999
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:10 PM
 
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There's a valid reason that they are the breed of choice for dog fighting.....

Scared of Pit Bulls? You’d Better Be! by Brian C. Anderson, City Journal Spring 1999
That whole article is about idiots training and encouraging their dogs to be aggressive.

Pit Bulls are used for dog fighting because they're extremely loyal and will basically do anything for their owners. They were once known as 'the nanny dog' because families had them to babysit their children. They're strong, capable and very intelligent and MAN used this to turn them into fighters.

Don't blame the dogs. Blame the idiot owners who take perfectly good dogs and encourage them to be violent. 47 out of the 51 dogs seized from Michael Vick's dog fighting operation were rehomed. Fourty seven former pit bulls used specifically for fighting were adopted out to new homes.

These dogs aren't any more aggressive than any other dog, but their loyalty is taken advantage of.
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