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Old 07-14-2012, 10:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by eddie gein View Post
That's what Zimmerman SAYS happened. Not necessarily WHAT actually happened.

That's somewhat true....although all the evidence, eyewitness accounts, telephone logs, and the fact that he passed the lie detector certainly backs-up Zimmermen's scenario to the "T".
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Old 07-14-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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The whole case is simply crumbling apart. I wonder who "pressured" the prosecutor to charge him? Seems like Zimmerman's malicious prosecution case is becoming stronger and stronger.

I wouldn't be surprised if they drop the charges altogether and settle with Zimmerman quietly.
This is a criminal case. They don't "settle" in a criminal case. The best Zimmerman could hope for is that the case to be dismissed as a result of being granted immunity via an immunity hearing, or the State offering him a really good plea deal.

People "settle" in civil cases. Not criminal cases.
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Old 07-14-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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I don't believe that is the case. Winning a criminal manslaughter case doesn't mean you can't be hit with a civil wrongful death suit. This is the case in the OJ Simpson situation if you recall.

I am open minded to learn however if this is some peculiar Florida twist but I highly doubt it....but I'm open to learning something if I'm wrong here.
I think you're correct about a civil lawsuit.

However, in re SYG law in Florida, if a defendant requests an immunity hearing and as a result of that hearing, the Judge finds that the defendant was "standing his ground" under that law and grants the defendant immunity and the criminal case is dismissed, THEN the defendant is also immuned from civil lawsuits.....I think that's part of the SYG law.

But if the person is NOT granted immunity, then has to go to trial and is found not guilty of the charges, that person can indeed still be sued for wrongful death. There is no such protection from a civil suit in that event.
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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"A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer."
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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"A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer."
Do you have a cite for ^^^ that?
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:08 PM
 
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Psssssttttttttttt: Zimm wasn't chasing after Martin.
Well, considering the audio of Zimmerman getting out of his car and running after Martin, and freely stating that he is indeed following Martin, I'd say the above is incorrect.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Do you have a cite for ^^^ that?
I'm using my phone to post. Try expending just the slightest amount of effort and google it. It's from the actual text of the SYG law in Florida, so it should be easy enough to find.

Sheesh...
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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You don't KNOW for a fact that Travon wasn't "casing" places to burglarize. You don't know for a fact that he's never robbed or burglarized in the past either.
A person is innocent until someone can show them guilty. As far as we know Trayvon was simply walking home.

But this also goes back to why Zimmerman wasn't originally arrested. He was allowed under Floriday law to defend himself. The authorities would have had to have done a full investigation and found beyond a shadow of a doubt that he wasn't simply defending himself.

Many were not willing to wait for the investigation and or wanted to influence how that investigation would go.
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Well, we'll always have this nitwit to look back on:


Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-Fla) - YouTube

........and this one:


Rep Hank Johnson: Trayvon executed for WWB in a GC - YouTube



That's the way I understand it. I've said as much here, but the Traybots just keep pounding away, ignoring facts.
SMH who votes for these people?
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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Many were not willing to wait for the investigation and or wanted to influence how that investigation would go.
Why do you think that was?
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