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Old 07-15-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Well yes of course -- because when your goal is to build a very government dependent, very helpless class of people who will turn to big government for all their wants and needs, what better than single women with children?

Remember --- the liberals don't believe that it takes two parents or even one competent parent to raise a child, it takes a village. They don't mean a real village either, which would be a small community of relatives and friends and neighors, they mean government. Having a father that cares about the children and provides for them gets in the way of having the government do everything.
What constitutes a competent parent?

The definition varies wildly. Just keeping your kids feed, clothed, and housed used to be enough. Now I have people cutting me dirty looks because I make my 8 year old work?

Or because my grandfather used to let me go boating by myself, drive the car 15 miles to town at 12, etc. All of which would make him incompetent in this world.

I'd like to see numbers where all, most, or even a significant number of liberals say those things BTW.

Kids have been raised by single parents since Adam left Eve to work the fields.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Is anyone going to explain what "attack marriage" means?
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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Is anyone going to explain what "attack marriage" means?
According to the OP it means having an opinion on marriage that isn't all sweetness and light....
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:25 AM
 
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Liberals have attacked marriage for decades now. However research is confirming that raising children in single parent homes creates severe inequalities.

NYT: Two Classes in America, Divide
It seems to me that liberals want marriage to be available to more people. Almost every liberal I know after the age of 40 is or has been married.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:28 AM
 
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What constitutes a competent parent?

The definition varies wildly. Just keeping your kids feed, clothed, and housed used to be enough. Now I have people cutting me dirty looks because I make my 8 year old work?

Or because my grandfather used to let me go boating by myself, drive the car 15 miles to town at 12, etc. All of which would make him incompetent in this world.

I'd like to see numbers where all, most, or even a significant number of liberals say those things BTW.

Kids have been raised by single parents since Adam left Eve to work the fields.
Well again -- now it's whatever the government decides.

The government really wants parents out of the way. Remember what ole Hillary specifically said -- it takes a "village" aka Big Government to raise a child, what do you think you know about raising a child?

A single parent can be competent obviously. Not all single parents are mooching off food stamps and Medicaid programs. Many work and work hard to support their children. That's not how the government wants it however because it prefers to reward helplessness and dependency and is doing all it can to encourage more dependency.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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What do you mean by "attack marriage"? Practically all liberals I know are married.
That's the thing, white upper middle class liberals marry at extremely high rates but support policies and a mass media culture that diminishes marriage to everyone else.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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That's the thing, white upper middle class liberals marry at extremely high rates but support policies and a mass media culture that diminishes marriage to everyone else.
You mean like opposition to same sex marriages?? I never new that
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Is anyone going to explain what "attack marriage" means?
Sure here are some things liberals have done to undermine marriage:

1. Great Society programs
2. A mass media, controlled by liberals, that promote and glamorizes single motherhood
3. Abortion
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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That's the thing, white upper middle class liberals marry at extremely high rates but support policies and a mass media culture that diminishes marriage to everyone else.
Well yes - because those marriages of the elites doesn't affect government dependency. They want unmarried women having babies.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You mean like opposition to same sex marriages?? I never new that
Same sex marriage isn't marriage so I don't know what you mean. Everything isn't about the gays.
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