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Old 07-15-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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Obama also PROMISED that he would always appoint an independent prosecutor to investigate ethics violations.

Another promise broken!!
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Unless Obama has suddenly become a blonde white woman named Stephanie Cutter... no. He didn't.
Huh? That's not what Obama says.

""Ultimately, I think, Mr. Romney is going to have to answer those questions because if he aspires to being president, one of the things you learn is you're ultimately responsible for the conduct of your operations," the president said."

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Old 07-15-2012, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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A statement more accurate than Obama surrogates calling Romney a felon.

If Obama is personally responsible for the death of Brian Terry and hundreds of Mexican's, can we hold George Bush responsible for the deaths of thousands of Iraqi's and Afghan's?

I didn't think so.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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If Obama is personally responsible for the death of Brian Terry and hundreds of Mexican's, can we hold George Bush responsible for the deaths of thousands of Iraqi's and Afghan's?

I didn't think so.

By the same token, if we cannot hold Obama responsible, we can't hold Bush responsible either.

I'd say it is illogical to say that "Obama killed" Terry or the victims in Mexico. As always, it was the person who pulled the trigger who is responsible. If we use typical lefty logic we could make that statement, but then, typical lefty logic is typically wrong.

But what we do know is that this was a terrible operation that never should have been done. The only reasonable hypothesis as to why it was done is that they wanted to generate some statisitcs (i.ie deaths) in order to justify gun control legislation. What else did Pres. Obama mean when he told Sarah Brady that he was working "under the radar" on gun control??

What we also know was that a ton of lies were told in an effort to cover it up.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Yes -- and Obama had every reason to know that the weapons he was supplying to the Mexican cartels would be used to kill people. There was no good reason whatsoever for this Fast and Furious program. None. Yet the liberals absolutely will not question this.

Yes indeed! and malamute, a person would have to be of the dumbest in nature, to not know that.

Even some not so swift, would have a brain to tell them, that supplying weapons to the Mexican Cartels, would end up getting many innocent people killed. Someone with no brain, would not get his.

Or someone who did not give a flying sh-- about any innocent people getting killed at the hands of the Cartels.

Everthing not right even with the Messiah Obama, should be questioned and questioned, and questioned.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:58 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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The lack of transparency by Obama on this issue is startling. Equally startling is the breathtaking hipocracy of Obama's defenders. On one hand the are in a frothing frenzie over Romney's tax returns for no rational reason but silent on Obama's obstruction of justice while hiding Fast and Furious documents.
And why, his defenders are as ignorant to the core as he is. Plain and simple. The hipocracy within this administration, his defenders, the bias as all hell Media, can all go you know where!

People are sick of it. Obama's is definitely no Messiah, so get over it already, and if he were, i surely would hope he would of kept his promise of HOPE N' CHANGE! ya think?
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:00 PM
 
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If Obama is personally responsible for the death of Brian Terry and hundreds of Mexican's, can we hold George Bush responsible for the deaths of thousands of Iraqi's and Afghan's?
Actually....that's the poorest analogy ever.

Obama GAVE the weapons to the criminals and knew they'd use them to murder civilians and border agents.

Bush didn't give the 'bad guys" any weapons. Collateral death and destruction is a natural by-product of being in a war zone.

The USA spends more money than any nation on Earth to prevent collateral deaths, but so far techology can't prevent it.

The deaths of Mexicans and border agents was ENTIRELY preventable!!!
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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His surrogates did. Ones close to him. He approves.
True. True. And now you're just making stuff up.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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He is responsible de facto for his campaign managers. Since he didn't denounce what she said and fire her for it. He said it.
LOL... forgive, but the irony is just too delicious.

Obama is responsible for a comment by one of his campaign staff, but Romney is not responsible for the actions of the company of which he was sole owner and CEO. Do I have that right?

Only in America.

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Old 07-15-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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I'm sick of the " my murderous president is better than your murderous president" crap! Republicans & Democrats are simpletons!
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