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What's embarrassing is that many 26 year olds can no longer hope to get a job that offers health insurance benefits. Have you not noticed the job market for recent college grads?
Exactly. I never would've guessed that my kids wouldn't have the same opportunities I had, but it seems to be true.
Exactly. I never would've guessed that my kids wouldn't have the same opportunities I had, but it seems to be true.
Same here. At 21 I was out on my own and had extra money and it was all cash as I had no credit cards or anything. And this was entry level work as well. I went to college later on.
And when they hit age 26, many of them STILL will choose not to insure themselves. Rather, they will decide that it's cheaper to pay Obama's Tax Penalty. So what are we actually gaining from a subset of people who are insured until age 26 and not necessarily so afterwards? Absolutely nothing from my vantage point.
Quick story. A 24 yr old just left the hospital after being in an MVA drunk. I remember him because I had to be trach him and I had assured the family it wouldn't be like that forever. They just down to the ER and gave us all big thanks and pizza!!
Ok, now I don't want to pull heart strings all day making decisions based on emotions. That 24 yr old was lucky, to be alive first, and that he was covered by parents, because the bill was atrocious.
Now, what happens say when another 24yr gets hit in car accident. This person's parents have no insurance. The 24yr old is going to college. Of course we will take care of that patient just like the one in the story above. NEVER will we compromise any human beings life with no insurance. So the student now has a bill of hunreds of thousands. The hospital has people who's job it is to get the 24yr old medicare or medicaid.
I do see a lot of posters here who don't want to pay for that patients medical bills and the other side that says obamacare will help with that.
Do keep in mind we taxpayers do pay for Medicare / Medical.
So, if you were in charge what would you do for this patients bill?
A big part of the problem is that the bill would be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Both area hospitals here are expanding at incredible rates. New wings with marble floors and cut stone walls. Fancy fountains out front and a player piano in the waiting room.
All absolutely needless. They will spend millions in research and care trying to get grandma to live past 90. I'm amazed at how nobody actually discusses how to bring down costs. The only real discussion is how to provide more money to pay for it all.
And when they hit age 26, many of them STILL will choose not to insure themselves. Rather, they will decide that it's cheaper to pay Obama's Tax Penalty. So what are we actually gaining from a subset of people who are insured until age 26 and not necessarily so afterwards? Absolutely nothing from my vantage point.
When I was 26, I finally landed a job that offered insurance. It wasn't the best but before that I was working two jobs, neither that offered insurance. If I was still in that position, I would not have been able to afford insurance nor the tax penalty.
The facts are there will be millions just like that and they are not going to be faced with either option so really, nothing will have changed. We will still be paying for those that are covered under Obamacare just as we are now without any insurance.
A big part of the problem is that the bill would be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Both area hospitals here are expanding at incredible rates. New wings with marble floors and cut stone walls. Fancy fountains out front and a player piano in the waiting room.
All absolutely needless. They will spend millions in research and care trying to get grandma to live past 90. I'm amazed at how nobody actually discusses how to bring down costs. The only real discussion is how to provide more money to pay for it all.
As far as costs go, I am very proactive on preventative care. Finding a disease process early could not only save lifes but cut costs.
Not in the least. Who is going to know ? You go to the doctor and present your insurance card.
Not every young person is making 6 figure salaries. Salaries have not kept up with everything else.
Rent-utilities-food are the main bills. If you have a job that can barely cut it then that's one less deduction to your money.
And that is one part of Obamacare that didn't get pushed onto taxpayers. Parents foot that bill.
Would you have rather that Obamacare subsidized their premiums with your money instead ?
Don't worry when it takes full effect the parents can dump em on the government so we can all pay for it.
And when they hit age 26, many of them STILL will choose not to insure themselves. Rather, they will decide that it's cheaper to pay Obama's Tax Penalty. So what are we actually gaining from a subset of people who are insured until age 26 and not necessarily so afterwards? Absolutely nothing from my vantage point.
At least they'll be paying a penalty, which will at least offset the costs if they do get sick. Generally young people are healthy, so it will probably help quite a bit.
I'm 27, and I would rather pay for insurance, even if it cost more per year.
As far as costs go, I am very proactive on preventative care. Finding a disease process early could not only save lifes but cut costs.
The problem is many don't listen to their doctors now so all the preventative stuff isn't really going to do much IMO. What does my doctor tell me everytime I go? Eat healthy, don't drink or smoke and exercise. They tell everybody that and not many listen. It really is that simple. Then you have folks who won't listen and show up to have a leg cut off for diabetes then come back a year later and have the other one removed and on and on. Healthcare insurance won't prevent fools from doing what fools do.
Student has cancer, has to take full course load while undergoing treatment for cancer so that she can maintain insurance but that being carried on your parents health insurance at 26 is sadder?
If, and I say if, I read that correctly, you have one strange scale of what is sad and what isn't.
I'm pretty sure zimar was being sarcastic.
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