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When I got on the train to work, a public worker was conducting the train. I think he/she created value for me.
I was in the supermarket yesterday, I bought meat that a public worker inspected and stamped the USDA seal on it. I think that public workers do us a valuable service.
My children are taught by public school teachers. They create obvious value.
Last week, when I flew in to see a relative, public air traffic controllers made sure my plane didn't hit other planes. Those controllers created safety.
The blind knee-jerk response "the government doesn't create jobs or value" -- that right-wingers repeat like robots, is false by the abundant examples of the world around us.
The heart of the matter is the state of American conservative and Republican thought that, in the face of countless contrary examples, believes like a religion that government can do no good.
It wasn't always true that the GOP was a bunch of extremist bent on destroying anything government. There was a time not long ago that Republicans also believed that government can do things useful. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, said this:
"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."
They didn't "create" anything; they provided a SERVICE.
The heart of the matter is the state of American conservative and Republican thought that, in the face of countless contrary examples, believes like a religion that government can do no good.
It's universal, not just American. And it's a true religion, and it's followers behave just like religious fanatics.
The good thing is that online discussions can and sometime do (I witnessed that in Russia) cure them, at least partly.
It's universal, not just American. And it's a true religion, and it's followers behave just like religious fanatics.
The good thing is that online discussions can and sometime do (I witnessed that in Russia) cure them, at least partly.
I know it's also true in the UK. I don't think it is true in Germany. I was recently having dinner with visiting German friends and there was no hint of the type of dogma, like climate change rejection, that exists in the U.S.
I know it's also true in the UK. I don't think it is true in Germany.
Germany is much more socialist. But I'm sure that it's anarcho-capitalist population is no different from American and British - they are just smaller in numbers.
Forget about post-Perestroyka years - you're highly unlikely to see anything looking at the abyss, anyway.
You've just called yourself braindead
Or I refuse to understand ill Republican reasoning Not that I'm thrilled about Democrats either...
Perestroyka or no perestroyka, we'll talk when Russia has 300 years of history as a democracy, until then keep your KGB colonels and advice to yourself.
Perestroyka or no perestroyka, we'll talk when Russia has 300 years of history as a democracy, until then keep your KGB colonels and advice to yourself.
1. There's no democracy in a world. In case you don't know, democracy = direct democracy - wiki what that means.
2. I'm just throwing around some random thoughts - that hardly counts as advice
I'm not following this thread anymore, but I just want to say that I think it's FANTASTIC that it's staying active and near the top of the page so long after he said what he did. That means that the issue has staying power, and the more people talk about it, the more it hurts Obama's chances of re-election.
Keep up the good work, guys!
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