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Old 07-18-2012, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I perform roadway and engineering maintenance design for state highways and believe me, it is a collaborative effort between my agency, local governments, and the tax paying public. A lot of our larger projects require all of these people working closely with each other so that we can deliver a project that accommodates the traffic needs of the public without major disruptive impacts. In that regard, I can very much relate to Obama's message.
He said "somebody else made that happen", not "somebody else helped you along the way".

 
Old 07-18-2012, 07:45 AM
 
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Originally Posted by irish_bob View Post
goverment in the usa is extremley pro business , taxes are very low compared to most western nations and minimum wage is incredibly low
????? Are you being funny, or are you that uninformed?

Here, read up:

World's Highest Corporate Tax Rate Hurts U.S. Economically - Economic Intelligence (US News and World Report)

United States-based companies and hardworking Americans face a steadily growing problem, one oddly self-imposed by Uncle Sam. Our current tax system puts businesses and workers at a competitive disadvantage in the global market and discourages companies from investing in operations here at home.

On Sunday, April 1, Japan lowered its corporate tax rate, leaving the United States with the highest effective rate among developed countries: 39.2 percent.
 
Old 07-18-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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He said "somebody else made that happen", not "somebody else helped you along the way".
Did you read the entire transcript? That's what I was basing my comment on...
 
Old 07-18-2012, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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BS, America has one of the lowest EFFECTIVE corporate tax rates in the world. Sorta makes your whole post nonsense.



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????? Are you being funny, or are you that uninformed?

Here, read up:

World's Highest Corporate Tax Rate Hurts U.S. Economically - Economic Intelligence (US News and World Report)

United States-based companies and hardworking Americans face a steadily growing problem, one oddly self-imposed by Uncle Sam. Our current tax system puts businesses and workers at a competitive disadvantage in the global market and discourages companies from investing in operations here at home.

On Sunday, April 1, Japan lowered its corporate tax rate, leaving the United States with the highest effective rate among developed countries: 39.2 percent.
 
Old 07-18-2012, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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????? Are you being funny, or are you that uninformed?

Here, read up:

World's Highest Corporate Tax Rate Hurts U.S. Economically - Economic Intelligence (US News and World Report)

United States-based companies and hardworking Americans face a steadily growing problem, one oddly self-imposed by Uncle Sam. Our current tax system puts businesses and workers at a competitive disadvantage in the global market and discourages companies from investing in operations here at home.

On Sunday, April 1, Japan lowered its corporate tax rate, leaving the United States with the highest effective rate among developed countries: 39.2 percent.
Since I have previously pointed out your error about corporate taxes, you are no longer just misinformed; you are now being intentionally misleading or lying.

The U.S. STATUTORY corporate tax rate is the highest but after deductions and credits, the amount that corporations actually now pay in taxes is at a historical low. In fact, a number of profitable U.S. companies earn billions in profits and pay no taxes.

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Are Taxes in the U.S. High or Low?
Historically, the term “tax rate” has meant the average or effective tax rate — that is, taxes as a share of income. The broadest measure of the tax rate is total federal revenues divided by the gross domestic product.

By this measure, federal taxes are at their lowest level in more than 60 years. The Congressional Budget Office estimated that federal taxes would consume just 14.8 percent of G.D.P. this year. The last year in which revenues were lower was 1950, according to the Office of Management and Budget.
 
Old 07-18-2012, 08:15 AM
 
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Obama hates the business community and never worked a day in his life. He lived off his grandparents money, affirmative action. His few private sector jobs he did little if anything because it required him to actually perform. Even as President his is pretty lazy and comes into the office late and leaves early. It is interesting FDR had the same hate towards the business community until the eve of WW II when FDR had to go begging on his knees to create the weapons of war our nation needed to win. Obama will only favor failed ideas and companies involved with green energy or his donors. We are headed for a massive economic depression.
 
Old 07-18-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Obama hates the business community and never worked a day in his life. He lived off his grandparents money, affirmative action. His few private sector jobs he did little if anything because it required him to actually perform. Even as President his is pretty lazy and comes into the office late and leaves early. It is interesting FDR had the same hate towards the business community until the eve of WW II when FDR had to go begging on his knees to create the weapons of war our nation needed to win. Obama will only favor failed ideas and companies involved with green energy or his donors. We are headed for a massive economic depression.
How do you know Obama "comes into the office late and leaves early?" Do you sign his timecard or are you just making this up?
 
Old 07-18-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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Government does no such thing.. they get in the way with regulations, and high taxes. The government takes the money from the tax payers and then creates problems for the business owners.. Obama knows NOTHING about business. We need a healthy tax base, meaning more businesses to do well and then the tax base will grow.. Obama has it backwards. He creates debt with spending and then hinders businesses to grow and thus the tax base shrinks and the government puts the tax payers in deeper debt.

Free enterprise has always been the answer to prosperity. Obama is sinking our economy because he knows NOTHING ABOUT THE ECONOMY. He knows big government.. Big government does not drive us into prosperity. It drives us into big debt. We need corporations to thrive. The liberals bash the big business creators of the cash flow that funds all the programs, roads, bridges.

The richer this country gets, the bigger the tax base grows. Without business , this government will be past broke.. it is because of this president taking a credit card out in our name and spending it on crazy programs and freebees. Take a good look at what Obama wasted tax payer dollars on.. Solyndra.. His cronies bought off Obama. His green agenda is not flying.. how many liberals bought solar panels here? They support a left wing radical with their vote but they really don't back his green agenda.
I tried to rep you here and wasn't allowed to do it again. That is just a really really good post. Very true.
 
Old 07-18-2012, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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In 1875, Tesla went on to study electrical engineering at the Austrian Polytechnic in Graz. A STATE OWNED COLLEGE, FUNDED BY THE GOBERNMENT.

Without that publicly funded education Tesla would of ended up digging ditches for Edison and we'd all be using DC current.
Edison had all of his researchers sign a waiver...that what ever ideas they came up with he would own the patent..Bill Gates the same thing..His father was patent lawyer who steered his son in the direction of having control...While I was working on Blues Brothers 2000 I worked as a lighting stand in for the band..along side was the best childhood friend of Dan Ackiroid - He was a brilliant man and the brains of Dan..He was an idea man and adviser. This guy hung our with Gates in the very early days- They were smoking hash - drinking beer and playing some blues guitar..There was a moment when this old acid head was running ideas by Gates...Gates said to him- "if you are not going to use that idea I am going to run with it"

There are many unknown heroes out there..that the world will never know about.

BUT what Obama was doing was not mentioning this concept...He was insinuating that those with wealth might have to start parting with it..

My mother dated this old man called Sam- During the early stages of the Soviet Union he made a run for it...He had seen it all- This is the only statement that he made regarding that system,,,"They persecuted all those that were bright and who worked very hard"................What's the point of being a hard working innovator or someone who gets up in the morning and puts in 18 hours a day keeping a small business together and employing people if the gov is going to come and make you work with out extra reward?
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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JFK "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country".....Obama 'ask not what you can do for your county-ask what your country can do for you.' My my how the Democrat party has changed.
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