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Old 07-19-2012, 04:30 PM
 
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The usual hysterical predictions, with the usual complete lack of backup or support. (yawn)
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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The usual hysterical predictions, with the usual complete lack of backup or support. (yawn)
Hysterical predictions by the Director of NASA Space Studies? Yeah, whatever you say.
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Old 07-19-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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Hysterical predictions by the Director of NASA Space Studies? Yeah, whatever you say.
Hansen? Even the AGW crowd try and distance themselves from him . LOL
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NASA

James Hansen, head of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, was arrested outside the White House as he joined protesters in urging President Barack Obama to reject TransCanada Corp. (TRP)’s $7 billion pipeline.

Before he was taken into custody today, Hansen took a megaphone and implored Obama to act “for the sake of your children and grandchildren.”

“If Obama chooses the dirty needle it will confirm that the president was just green-washing all along,” Hansen, 70, who took a vacation day from his job at the New York based institute to participate in the protest, said in an e-mailed statement.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So what's your point? All that proves is that the drought and heat we are going through has happened before many times.
There has been warming in the past, but why would anyone expect it was from anything but outside sources. We can predict the tide based on gravity, what outside source do you atrtribute to warming . What evidence is there that this is cyclic in nature other than blind faith, there is no evidence other than man this time around.

Interesting article below, not expected to raise sea level since this was over water but still a significant change.

19 July 2012


Iceberg breaks off from Greenland's Petermann Glacier

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An iceberg twice the size of Manhattan has broken away from the Petermann Glacier in northern Greenland.


In 2010 an ice island measuring 250 square km (100 square miles) broke off the same glacier.
The process that spawns icebergs - known as calving - is a natural, periodic process affecting all glaciers that terminate at the ocean.
A previous calving event at the same glacier in 2010 created an iceberg twice the size of this one.


BBC News - Iceberg breaks off from Greenland's Petermann Glacier
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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An iceberg twice the size of Manhattan tore off one of Greenland’s largest glaciers, illustrating another dramatic change to the warming island. Northern Greenland and Canada have been warming five times faster than the average global temperature, Muenchow said. Temperatures have increased there by about 4 degrees Fahrenheit in the last 30 years, Scambos said.

It’s more than glaciers in Greenland that are melting. Scientists also reported this week that the Arctic had the largest sea ice loss on record for June. The Durango Herald 07/19/2012 | Cracking up: Greenland’s glacier loss ‘disturbing’

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

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Old 07-19-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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PBS special from yesterday regarding salmon in Puget Sound

HARI SREENIVASAN: And now there is another threat: Rising temperatures may push Northwest salmon to the brink of extinction.
Salmon depend on the glacier-fed streams of the Northwest to survive. But since 1920, the average annual temperature in the region has risen by one-and-a-half degrees. According to the United States Geological Survey, that slight rise in temperature caused the South Cascades Glaciers to shrink to half what they were a century ago.
Hydrologist Alan Hamlet, who works with the group, says the loss of those glaciers has many consequences.
ALAN HAMLET, University of Washington Climate Impacts Group: When we lose the snowpack in the mountains and the glaciers, those are a kind of water tower, a way of storing water under natural conditions. And when we lose that water tower, then the flows in the summer go down.


Swinomish Tribe Works to Adapt to Shrinking Salmon Supply | PBS NewsHour | July 18, 2012 | PBS
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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July 18th
An iceberg twice the size of Manhattan tore off one of Greenland’s largest glaciers, illustrating another dramatic change to the warming island. Northern Greenland and Canada have been warming five times faster than the average global temperature, Muenchow said. Temperatures have increased there by about 4 degrees Fahrenheit in the last 30 years, Scambos said.

It’s more than glaciers in Greenland that are melting. Scientists also reported this week that the Arctic had the largest sea ice loss on record for June. The Durango Herald 07/19/2012 | Cracking up: Greenland’s glacier loss ‘disturbing’

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag
Better let Monsanto know.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:06 PM
 
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Apparently Rolling Stone is now peer reviewing these loony birds. Here is the nonsense being spewed by one of these global lunatics Bill Mckibben.............

"According to the Carbon Tracker report, if Exxon burns its current reserves, it would use up more than seven percent of the available atmospheric space between us and the risk of two degrees. BP is just behind, followed by the Russian firm Gazprom, then Chevron, ConocoPhillips and Shell, each of which would fill between three and four percent. Taken together, just these six firms, of the 200 listed in the Carbon Tracker report, would use up more than a quarter of the remaining two-degree budget. Severstal, the Russian mining giant, leads the list of coal companies, followed by firms like BHP Billiton and Peabody. The numbers are simply staggering – this industry, and this industry alone, holds the power to change the physics and chemistry of our planet, and they're planning to use it."

Complete insanity.

Here is the entire diatribe.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...719?print=true
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:07 PM
 
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Where exactly did that Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming go?


So the IPCC has been telling us that the earth has warmed drastically over the last 100 or so years. In fact it has been reported that the warming is around 0.8C which (gasp) is just awful… Mostly because it has not lead to things like more flooding and more tornadoes and more hurricanes etc….

Now a new peer reviewed scientific paper reports that the methods scientists use to homogenize the data is wrong and about half the warming being reported is in fact an error.

So over the last 100 years, it is more likely that the earth has warmed by about 0.42C. Not exactly earth shaking numbers…

http://itia.ntua.gr/en/docinfo/1212/

What in your scientific opinion would be a significant number. I mean .42C doesn't seem like much, but are you a scientist? Do you what is a significant number? Unless you have good answers here, commenting on a scientific finding is useless.
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