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Old 07-18-2012, 01:04 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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You've come a long way, baby.

Here's Alexis de Tocqueville on American women, from "Democracy in America" (1835-40):

"America is the one country where the most consistent care has been taken to trace clearly distinct spheres for the two sexes and where both are required to walk at an equal pace but along paths that are never the same. You do not see American women directing concerns outside the range of the family, or handling business dealings, or entering politics. Neither do you see any women forced to face the rough work of plowing fields, nor any of those heavy tasks which demand the exertion of physical strength. No family is so poor that it forms the exception to this rule." …

"If the American woman is not allowed to escape the tranquil sphere of her domestic duties, neither is she forced to leave it."…

"Consequently, American women who display a quite manly intelligence and energy generally maintain very delicate features and always remain feminine in their ways even though they sometimes show they have the hearts and minds of men."…

"Nor have Americans ever imagined that the result of democratic principle would be to overturn a husband’s authority or to introduce any ambiguity about who is in charge in the family." …

"Americans constantly display their complete confidence in the understanding of their wives and have a deep respect for their freedom. They esteem that her mind is as capable as a man’s of discovering the plain truth and that her heart is just as resolute in following it." …

"In America a girl can set out on a long journey alone and without fear."

"American legislators, who have softened almost all the articles of the penal code, still punish rape by death. And no other crime is prosecuted with the same relentless severity by public opinion. The explanation is this: since Americans have nothing they value or respect more than a woman’s honor and independence, they consider no punishment too harsh for those who deprive her of both against her will." …

"Thus Americans do not believe that men and women have the duty or the right to perform the same things but they show the same regard for the role played by both and they consider them as equal in worth although their lot in life is different. They do not give to a woman’s courage the same character or role as a man’s but they never question its strength; and, while they do not think that a man and his partner should always use their intelligence and understanding in the same way, at least they consider that the one has as sound an understanding and as clear a mind as the other."

"For my part, I say this without hesitation: although the American woman rarely leaves her domestic sphere and in certain respects is very dependent within it, nowhere does she enjoy a higher status. And now, as I come near to the end of this book in which I have recorded so many considerable achievements of the Americans, if I am asked how we should account for the unusual prosperity and growing strength of this nation, I would reply that they must be attributed to the superiority of their women."
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:07 AM
 
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yea well the Liberals with their sexism, making jokes about rape, Sex with minors, etc it is setting back years. And men are loving it!
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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yea well the Liberals with their sexism, making jokes about rape, Sex with minors, etc it is setting back years. And men are loving it!
Stop using the word "men" so freely. It's only those males that feel threatened by women.

Women can do everything a man can do, maybe better and maybe differently, but the can get the same results.

The day men can become pregnant and give birth to a child then they become MY equal. Until that time comes, I'm the superior of the two genders.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Yes, we have come a long way.

And we will NEVER go back.

Looks like you were born a hundred-some years too late WesternPilgrim.....too bad for you.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:40 AM
 
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"America is the one country where the most consistent care has been taken to trace clearly distinct spheres for the two sexes and where both are required to walk at an equal pace but along paths that are never the same. You do not see American women directing concerns outside the range of the family, or handling business dealings, or entering politics.""""



Then you are blind and quite stupid.




""""Neither do you see any women forced to face the rough work of plowing fields, nor any of those heavy tasks which demand the exertion of physical strength. """""


Then you are blind and quite stupid



"""No family is so poor that it forms the exception to this rule." …"""


What an ignorant, naive statement....




"If the American woman is not allowed to escape the tranquil sphere of her domestic duties, neither is she forced to leave it."…""""




Oh? Except when the Holy Male can't make enought to support his family or the "tranquility" is broken with a beating and abuse...

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Old 07-18-2012, 05:40 AM
 
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Here's Alexis de Tocqueville on American women, from "Democracy in America" (1835-40):


So a visitor to the United States did not notice that, at that time, over 90% of Americans lived on farms, and rarely (if ever) left those farms.


Brilliant.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:58 AM
 
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A French aristocrat, which explains his stupidity,and who also drooled,
" a depraved taste for equality"

But I'm sure those who hate equality will drool all over him.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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For the American woman who thinks they are now suddenly more powerful and independent than men: realize that you can be offshored just as easily as IT staff.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:06 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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yea well the Liberals with their sexism, making jokes about rape, Sex with minors, etc it is setting back years. And men are loving it!
jokes about rape/

sex with minors?

Examples?
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Most men that threaten to "offshore" women have already done so in the guise of internet porn sites.
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