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Old 07-18-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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Outsourcing is not the reason that there are no jobs being created in America.

The reason there are no jobs is because of Obama's anti- business policies.
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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I already explained the bill will do nothing to bring any jobs back home with a quote from you bill you are so enraged about. Perhaps you should read it yourself and tell me how it will bring jobs back when it does nothing to lower the US corp tax rate which is why most left in the first dam place.
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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Outsourcing is not the reason that there are no jobs being created in America.

The reason there are no jobs is because of Obama's anti- business policies.
Please don't parrot the talking points. Give examples of how Obama is anti-business and then follow up with what the GOP has done to create jobs and why they would refuse to support his bill. I will not hold my breath.

I'll throw this out there for the heck of it...

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Obama continued the Bush crisis-fighting policy of bailing out and stabilizing the banking sector, effectively saving Wall Street from a complete disaster it created on its own. Then he went on to rescue the American automobile industry. On taxes? He continued the Bush-era tax cuts on the wealthiest Americans over fierce opposition from his own party. Now he’s offering even more tax cuts. In his $447 billion jobs plan, Obama has recommended slicing the payroll tax paid by businesses. And on trade? Obama this week sent free-trade agreements with South Korea, Colombia and Panama to Congress for final approval, again over some opposition from his party. Any of these measures sound “anti-business” to you?

One Obama policy often attacked as “anti-business” is his healthcare reform. But one aim of the reform is to control escalating medical costs, which would boost the competitiveness of American businesses. Granted, Obama did increase regulation on the financial sector. But is this really “anti-business”? The goal is to prevent the sort of dangerous financial speculation that tanked Wall Street and created the Great Recession in the first place. A more stable, well-regulated financial system is good for American business, not “anti-business.”

In fact, the supposedly “pro-business” Republicans are the ones blocking Obama policies that could help business even more. Obama’s plans to improve American infrastructure, repeatedly rejected by the GOP, would give a boost to efficiency and bring down costs for American companies.

Is Obama anti-business? | Business | TIME.com
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: FL
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"gerrymandering" That word does not mean what you think it means.

Also, you could read the actual language of the bill, or at least the synopsis. It's actually pretty good and rewards businesses that repatriate jobs while removing some of the tax rewards for moving operations overseas. What's the objection here?
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Anyone care to look further and explain WHY they voted to block consideration? Just saying the GOP voted to block the bill without detailing why is **** poor journalism, and indicative of liberal gerrymandering in order to make Republicans look bad. At least two liberals on this forum fell for it. How many more will pile on?

Ok, I'll bite. Why DID they vote to block it's consideration?
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Ok, I'll bite. Why DID they vote to block it's consideration?
What was attached to the bill? To often a good bill is used to piggy back pork.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What was attached to the bill? To often a good bill is used to piggy back pork.
I don't know. What WAS attached to the bill and who did it?
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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Please don't parrot the talking points. Give examples of how Obama is anti-business and then follow up with what the GOP has done to create jobs and why they would refuse to support his bill. I will not hold my breath.


"Want Job Creation?" Small Business, the Road to Recovery - Forbes

From the above article:

"We are not here to provide jobs as a service to the economy. We provide jobs based on profit; we hire more employees to make the business more profitable. That is how business creates jobs. So we must stimulate the private sector and particularly small business, if we want job growth."

"In the world of small business, Obamacare will increase costs, regardless of what is being touted on television. Even if my or another small company is under the minimum “small business” requirement to be affected, we still are. Many of my manufacturers hire over 50 people and therefore as their costs skyrocket, they only pass those higher costs on to me. Which, in turn, will create higher costs for my customers. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out. I do have to consider the possibility of new taxes, which I believe will come with a Second Obama Administration. What is getting lost here is that this isn’t a “party” issue but a business one. Many of the business owners that I’ve talked to over the last year were Obama supporters and die hard left-wing Democrats. They are upset that their businesses are going under because of this administration’s policies and they’ve made it clear that this time around, they won’t be voting for “hope and change”. The majority say they can’t afford to lose their businesses over a promise that may be broken later. They also don’t trust what this administration may do to small business through a further expansion of government taxation and spending should he gain a Second Term. And they may be right. I also have to consider the impact of a slowdown in consumer spending. Business is not increasing as it should…and for many small businesses it is falling. Consumers have little disposable income and they are often making tough choices."
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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Anyone care to look further and explain WHY they voted to block consideration? Just saying the GOP voted to block the bill without detailing why is **** poor journalism, and indicative of liberal gerrymandering in order to make Republicans look bad. At least two liberals on this forum fell for it. How many more will pile on?
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! How about when Obama blocked the Keystone Pipleline and NONE of the details of why were discussed by the Republipunks on this site.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:46 PM
 
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! How about when Obama blocked the Keystone Pipleline and NONE of the details of why were discussed by the Republipunks on this site.
What are you talking about?

Everyone knows that it was to make his environmental voting bloc happy.
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