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Old 07-29-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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an armed citizen might have stopped this, not a for sure thing, but might have.
or added to the chaos and nightmare and there may have been more victims. The theater was filled with smoke due to a gas can going off, and people running to the exits. By the time anyone would have reacted, they would have treated EACH other as the shooter, and by that time, he was already outside.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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Are you tellin me that Arizona, Nevada, Lousiana, Alabama, Mississippi are crime free utopias?
Gun toting states have higher murder rates.

Harvard Study: Gun Control Is Counterproductive | The American Civil Rights Union


looks like Harvard disagrees with you.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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or added to the chaos and nightmare and there may have been more victims. The theater was filled with smoke due to a gas can going off, and people running to the exits. By the time anyone would have reacted, they would have treated EACH other as the shooter, and by that time, he was already outside.


smoke from tear gas, cough, spit and you can still shoot through it at the perp. also, most people who carry consider themselves at orange or burnt orange, and most people who do not carry are considered at white or yellow at best.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:30 PM
 
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keep on sucking on that kool aid

I dont have to suck on the kool aid, the republican and democrat parties are too busy giving it out to their membership.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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Baloney ... if someone had seen that clown head, they would have told the media by now. Everyone loves a little attention, and a little face time on TV. There is no gag order applicable to the public or the news media. That first witness that saw "the man" take a phone call and go to the emergency exit and open it, said it looked like he was looking for someone outside, or looking to call someone to the door. Obviously, as soon as the picture of Holmes was plastered all over the TV ... that witness would have fingered him as that guy, if it was that guy. And he made no mention of that guy wearing a hat!!

What we do know is that that witnesses (two) described the guy receiving the phone call as a normal looking guy, which would not define Carrot Top. We also have another witness who testified to witnessing someone other than the shooter toss a gas grenade from a different direction than where the shooter was standing. These reports were given to the media at the same time the police were reporting that they have not one piece of evidence or any indication that another person other than Holmes was involved. That is a BLATANT LIE on the surface, because three witnesses who claim there was a second person is at least an indication, even if it is not considered evidence.

That's the reality, your mental gymnastics notwithstanding. You should take this act to London.
Are you serious? You're asserting that those three "witnesses" who apparently talked to the media, out of all the people in that theater that night, said things which indicate to you that there were accomplices and you're taking that information as the absolute gospel truth? You're not considering that the circumstances in that room would have been enormously stressful, scary, and most definitely would have had an effect on the accuracy of the memories of those people?

Step back. You're taking statements made to the media by individuals who went through a horribly traumatic experience that night, as the absolute truth, with no consideration at all to how an experience affects the brain and memory. Where are all the other people sitting near this person who received the call? Do you think they just aren't reading and listening to the reports about this incident so they don't know that what they may have seen and heard would be relevant?
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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smoke from tear gas, cough, spit and you can still shoot through it at the perp.
BWHWHAHAHAHA. You've never been the receiving end of a tear gas can have you?

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also, most people who carry consider themselves at orange or burnt orange, and most people who do not carry are considered at white or yellow at best.
So what?
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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And so what?
Sorry, I don't get it.
Does this change the fact that Georgia is overall affects by gun violence?
6 murders per 100.000 inhabitants: a rate that is FIVE times higher than Western Europe.
Does this change the fact that Atlanta is even more violent than Chicago?
Does it change the fact that the SunBelt is the most violent/crime-ridden area in the USA?

great, what was the murder rate of europe during the 20th century compared to the USA?

please include all murders done by goverments in that number too.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:37 PM
 
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I dont have to suck on the kool aid, the republican and democrat parties are too busy giving it out to their membership.
anyone who leaps to a non-supported conclusion that the government is involved in this event, is on something or else, they are just delusional.

based on your posting history, i'll believe its the latter.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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This is typical of the anti gunners, they scream do something, even if it is wrong.

dont worry, the republicans do it too. both democrats and republicans both like to throw money at dead horses.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:40 PM
 
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anyone who leaps to a non-supported conclusion that the government is involved in this event, is on something or else, they are just delusional.

based on your posting history, i'll believe its the latter.
to me it speaks of a staged event, the feds sure do like their staged events, especially right before some vote on something. I dont put anything past the feds at all.
I think he did the crime, but it is possible the feds did help him out.
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