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Old 07-24-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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Prove it. I'll trust the intel of every Western intelligence agency over a partisan narrative put forth by DNC party hacks to help win an election.
And UNSCOM. Don't forget UNSCOM...


President Clinton orders attack on Iraq - YouTube
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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Well I guess the whole world was wrong huh? They did not find any because they were moved. Saddam had plenty of time to get rid of the WMDs.
Not to mention the fact that Democrat Senator Rockefeller took it upon himself to tip off Iraq's ally at the time, Syria.

See my earlier post.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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All this..to save the petrodollar.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:04 AM
 
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As I said earler, gas is not a wmd by any means.
Are you just making that up?

Here's the Dept of Defense's presentation on WMDs (click on each slide to enlarge, transcript is below slides). Note the types of weapons included...
DoD News: DoD Briefing on Iraqi Denial and Deception
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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How Did Iraq Get Its Weapons? We Sold Them


THE US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US, under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr, sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene.

Classified US Defense Department documents also seen by the Sunday Herald show that Britain sold Iraq the drug pralidoxine, an antidote to nerve gas, in March 1992, after the end of the Gulf war. Pralidoxine can be reverse engineered to create nerve gas.

How Did Iraq Get Its Weapons? We Sold Them
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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The Democrats in Congress were responsible for the delay in taking action - ideally we should have been in Iraq by mid-December 2002. If we had been - those weapons would havs still been there - and not in Syria. We waited because of the political machinations of Democratic senators and representatives who placed politics over national security.
So the Democrats were all of them for the war when that's convenient for the narrative, and they were all hampering the efforts when that fits better? Do you guys even try for intellectual honesty any more?

Listen, you had to build up an invasion force on the far side of the globe. That can't be done fast, and it sure as all out can't be done in secrecy. The intentions were telegraphed far and wide.

Listen, I'll tell you what happened: In 2002, there were a lot of Americans who were still pissed off and scared after 9/11. Your elected representatives, who had desired war with Iraq for years - assisted by the slickest propaganda effort since Goebbels - deftly redirected that anger towards Iraq and made you not just say that Saddam Hussein having chemical warheads was a threat towards the US, they made you believe it. Or, rather, feel it.

And now you feel that pointing out that the war you wanted so badly failed to accomplish its stated objective somehow vindicates you?
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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Listen, you had to build up an invasion force on the far side of the globe. That can't be done fast, and it sure as all out can't be done in secrecy.
Exactly. Telegraphed by Clinton, the UK, and UNSCOM...


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Old 07-24-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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Exactly. Telegraphed by Clinton, the UK, and UNSCOM...


President Clinton orders attack on Iraq - YouTube
Ehm - those were the air attacks in 1998. And UNSCOM were seriously surprised to be yanked out, but...

Harrier seems to be defending the Iraq War in 2003. Y'know, the one with the invasion and subsequent occupation? The one that utterly failed to secure any WMD?
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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Ehm - those were the air attacks in 1998. And UNSCOM were seriously surprised to be yanked out, but...
History, man. Know it...
October 31, 1998:



Iraq ends all forms of cooperation with the UNSCOM teams and expels inspectors from the country.

U.S. President Clinton signed into law HR 4655, the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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So the Democrats were all of them for the war when that's convenient for the narrative, and they were all hampering the efforts when that fits better? Do you guys even try for intellectual honesty any more?

Listen, you had to build up an invasion force on the far side of the globe. That can't be done fast, and it sure as all out can't be done in secrecy. The intentions were telegraphed far and wide.

Listen, I'll tell you what happened: In 2002, there were a lot of Americans who were still pissed off and scared after 9/11. Your elected representatives, who had desired war with Iraq for years - assisted by the slickest propaganda effort since Goebbels - deftly redirected that anger towards Iraq and made you not just say that Saddam Hussein having chemical warheads was a threat towards the US, they made you believe it. Or, rather, feel it.

And now you feel that pointing out that the war you wanted so badly failed to accomplish its stated objective somehow vindicates you?
Rep to you.
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