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Old 07-23-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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Sure, right after we impose the mental competency test as a requirement to enable you to exercise your freedom of speech and your right to vote.
Oh don't leave out to drive a car.....
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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Lol... I swear most of you couldn't explain your way out of a paper bag if FOX News isn't giving you the talking points.

The gov't can't sanction illegal activities. They can just choose not to prosecute a case. That's what the AZ prosecutors did -- chose not to prosecute the names given to them by the DEA. Why didn't they prosecute the names given to them by the DEA? B/c those people didn't do anything illegal!

Think about what you're saying. If the gov't can't prosecute illegal activities that they let happen, how did we build RICO cases against organized crime? Why are wire taps the nail-in-the-coffin for most undercover cases? B/c the gov't lets people break the law on record and THEN prosecutes them.
the government can sanction anything they want at this point. the reality is that gun walking is illegal, and the and it was the ATFs decision not to prosecute the cases. remember this was done at the FEDERAL level not the state level.

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Congressional lawmakers critical of the Justice Department released documents on Feb. 2 that revealed the ATF had enough evidence as early as 2009 to arrest the gun buyers. The memos show that the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) in Phoenix had wiretaps on the straw buyers and shared that with the ATF. But no arrests were made at that time; the Congressional report concludes that the ATF wanted to build their own case instead of sharing the arrests with the DEA.
nice try but arizona had nothing to do with the case other than it was federal offices here in arozona that ran the operation.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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You're right. Here in Florida, a woman got out of a mental hospital, went to a gun range, bought a gun, the seller got the electronic approval from FDLE and sold her the gun. Then she and her adult son went shooting at the same range and when he went up to shoot, she shot and killed him.

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There really should be mental health reviews prior to someone being granted a license to own a firearm and, no, just having a check box in a self fill out form doesn't cut the mustard in this case.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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the government can sanction anything they want at this point. the reality is that gun walking is illegal, and the and it was the ATFs decision not to prosecute the cases. remember this was done at the FEDERAL level not the state level.



nice try but arizona had nothing to do with the case other than it was federal offices here in arozona that ran the operation.
So why is it that when the agents turned over names to federal prosecutors of people they built cases against, prosecutors told them, they didn't have a case?

The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal - Fortune Features

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By June 2010 the agents had sent the U.S. Attorney's office a list of 31 suspects they wanted to arrest, with 46 pages outlining their illegal acts. But for the next seven months prosecutors did not indict a single suspect... In a meeting on Jan. 5, 2010, Emory Hurley, the assistant U.S. Attorney in Phoenix overseeing the Fast and Furious case, told the agents they lacked probable cause for arrests, according to ATF records. Hurley's judgment reflected accepted policy at the U.S. Attorney's Office in Arizona. "[P]urchasing multiple long guns in Arizona is lawful," Patrick Cunningham, the U.S. Attorney's then–criminal chief in Arizona would later write. "Transferring them to another is lawful and even sale or barter of the guns to another is lawful unless the United States can prove by clear and convincing evidence that the firearm is intended to be used to commit a crime."
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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Eddie, I guess you missed where " Beltway politics" would lead........ now who do you think that term means? How about the best gun salesman of the 21st century?
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