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no they wont. they will try, but the various boards that the fed will set up will prevent things like that from happening through increased regulations. obamacare was designed to force the insurance companies OUT of the health insurance markets so that the federal government could make the case that they need to step in and run health care for the country on a single payer system, and when that happens we are ALL screwed, blued, and tattooed.
You seem to be forgetting that the ACA is already dead. The administration is simply ignoring the law and just making it up as they go. Whoever lobbies best will get what they want, the rest of us are screwed.
The idea went nowhere, for good reason.
Progressives have pushed for this for scores, the Democrats passed it under less than honorable methods all by themselves and now own it.
The people shouted from the rooftops, "We don't want it!". It was crammed down their throats anyway without regard to the wishes of the people.
Let it hang like a millstone around Obama's neck this November.
That is the problem. When you have Pelosi staying pass it to see what is inside. What a crock of ****. Laws should be open so we can criticize what is inside and work on it to make it a better potential law. Passing it to find out what it's inside of it, is just an example of why we declared our independence from Great Britain in 1776.
It's something I don't understand: the Repubs work for the rich and the rich includes Health Care Insurance congomerates. ObamaCarewill make billions for them when the mandate is enacted. Far as the conditions they had to agree to i.e. insuring people with pre-medical conditions--these are easily gotten around with loopholes. Yet the Repubs in the House are working furiously to overturn the ACA. So why aren't the CEO's communicating with their lapdogs in Congress, "Shut your yaps and leave our windfall alone!"
Ever wonder why so many Goldman Sachs people are in this current administration?
That is the problem. When you have Pelosi staying pass it to see what is inside. What a crock of ****. Laws should be open so we can criticize what is inside and work on it to make it a better potential law. Passing it to find out what it's inside of it, is just an example of why we declared our independence from Great Britain in 1776.
Remember Obama's claim of Bills being reviewed by the public for a time before signing them into Law?
You seem to be forgetting that the ACA is already dead. The administration is simply ignoring the law and just making it up as they go. Whoever lobbies best will get what they want, the rest of us are screwed.
But.....but....it's the "Law of the Land" I heard Pelosi say.
You mean to tell me that the Administration is not following the Law?
Republicans are not only for the "rich"....they are for Freedom and personal responsibility......and our constitution. They are for the people.
The healthcare bill will bankrupt this country...there is simply not enough money to pay for it. We need other solutions to the rising COSTS of healthcare. We HAVE great providers and treatments...it's the COST of it that's the problem! I maintain that if they charged reasonable prices, more folks could actually PAY for their care....even without insurance! There's no reason that an MRI should cost thousands of dollars.....(yes, I know the machine is expensive, but they use it so much, it's paid for in the 1st couple of months!!)...few can come up with $3500 out of pocket. Make the COST of treatments more reasonable, and more could pay, and they would be able to charge less, since everything is being paid for.
Right now, the mentality is that no one wants to pay a dime for seeing a doctor.....and that's just wrong.
ohh yeah them damn mri scans are crazy ridiculous. you would think there would be a discount for the big dose of radiation that comes with it.
Remember Obama's claim of Bills being reviewed by the public for a time before signing them into Law?
Where did that promise go?
Nowhere it seems.
Putting on my "blind liberal" hat, he promised transparency but didn't know the realities that exist. In all reality, I knew that was BS back in 2008. Maybe the "death panels" were BS too but it is more believable than someone saying they want transparency in politics. Somethings should not be open to the public for their own good. Case in point, war. Look at our views on wars before Vietnam and after. World War 1 and 2 were romanticized in history (even though we had the mustard gas and POWs being forced into work camps) but yet Vietnam we saw war on television and all of a sudden people are anti-war? Coincidence or correlation and causation, you decide.
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But.....but....it's the "Law of the Land" I heard Pelosi say.
So were the Stamp Act, Townsend Act, Tea Tax and Intolerable Acts levied by Britain in the 1760's and 1770's. The difference then, we had taxation without representation. This time, we had representation, but we also had to encourage congress to pass the bill just to see what we had to do as apart of the conditions of the ACA. Basically led to the same end result.
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You mean to tell me that the Administration is not following the Law?
In someways, they don't follow laws. Look at the unfair parts of it like exemptions to Congress (and their staff.) Not the first time congress gets special treatment from jobs, wont be the last either.
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It's not even a question.
Every exemption, delay, etc, are gross violations of law.
If the laws were rectified in congress they aren't, the law wasn't. It was "executive actions."
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