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Old 07-25-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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So, lots of post here about how "stupid" California is, and Californians are ... a common message here is that somehow, once a person is a Californian, by birth or choice, they become "stupid" ... ostensibly, California somehow is ground zero for denying personal freedoms to a degree not found elsewhere ... taxations not found elsewhere ... stupid laws, not found in any comparables elsewhere ... "if only California would 'wake up' is the commonly used phrase, implying that the state is somehow the dumbest of the bunch.

Now, I'm not exactly sure how becoming a Californian changes the genetics of our species to make a resident remarkably "stupid" compared to people from other states -- whether Texas, or Wisconsin, or Florida, or or or ... but it must be so, in spite of California being the leading economy in the nation even during the present challenging economy, etc.

But, it was refreshing to see this item from New York this morning ... a clear imposition on personal freedom (to make one's self sick as hell regardless of any cost to society) ... but it didn't start in California? Somehow, if this is stupid, California MUST be at fault:

Heated debate over NYC big sugary drinks ban plan - CBS News
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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So, lots of post here about how "stupid" California is, and Californians are ... a common message here is that somehow, once a person is a Californian, by birth or choice, they become "stupid" ... ostensibly, California somehow is ground zero for denying personal freedoms to a degree not found elsewhere ... taxations not found elsewhere ... stupid laws, not found in any comparables elsewhere ... "if only California would 'wake up' is the commonly used phrase, implying that the state is somehow the dumbest of the bunch.

Now, I'm not exactly sure how becoming a Californian changes the genetics of our species to make a resident remarkably "stupid" compared to people from other states -- whether Texas, or Wisconsin, or Florida, or or or ... but it must be so, in spite of California being the leading economy in the nation even during the present challenging economy, etc.

But, it was refreshing to see this item from New York this morning ... a clear imposition on personal freedom (to make one's self sick as hell regardless of any cost to society) ... but it didn't start in California? Somehow, if this is stupid, California MUST be at fault:

Heated debate over NYC big sugary drinks ban plan - CBS News
Yeah, people who have moved here to work in the high tech sectors jobs in Silicon Valley, financial jobs in San Francisco, work at the many, many universities, the skilled, long hour behind the scenes jobs in the entertainment industry, the ability to understand planet earth hands on as a whole, as this state packs in every natural environment in smallest amount of space yeah, were pretty stupid.

Obviously not directed at you nullgeo.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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None of it is limited to California although a great deal does originate there. However, other states certainly share the "blame." New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, the PNW and others immediately leap to mind; not to leave out the District of Columbia.

At the risk of having this thread moved to the politics forum, if you wish to discern/dissect "nanny government" centers simply think "blue."

As always, just one man's opinion based upon the better part of 20 year's experience in politics. But I realize that doesn't count.

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Old 07-25-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Think I'll go chug a super big gulp while I still can
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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None of it is limited to California although a great deal does originate there. However, other states certainly share the "blame." New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, the PNW and others immediately leap to mind; not to leave out the District of Columbia.

At the risk of having this thread moved to the politics forum, if you wish to discern/dissect "nanny government" centers simply think "blue."

As always, just one man's opinion based upon the better part of 20 year's experience in politics. But i realize that doesn't count.
Well now, just for chuckles, let's have a gander at a solid red state law:
The Texas Constitution
Article 1 - BILL OF RIGHTS
Section 4 - RELIGIOUS TESTS -- No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

Oh, but wait, here's a few more from Texas:
It is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.
Up to a felony charge can be levied for promoting the use of, or owning more than six dildos.
Full text of the law.
It is illegal for one to shoot a buffalo from the second story of a hotel.
It is illegal to milk another person’s cow.
A recently passed anticrime law requires criminals to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed.
Homosexual behavior is a misdemeanor offense.
Why does this law exist?
Full text of the law.
The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because it contains a formula for making beer at home.

Stupid and restrictive is EVERYWHERE.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Well now, just for chuckles, let's have a gander at a solid red state law:
The Texas Constitution
Article 1 - BILL OF RIGHTS
Section 4 - RELIGIOUS TESTS -- No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

Oh, but wait, here's a few more from Texas:
It is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.
Up to a felony charge can be levied for promoting the use of, or owning more than six dildos.
Full text of the law.
It is illegal for one to shoot a buffalo from the second story of a hotel.
It is illegal to milk another person’s cow.
A recently passed anticrime law requires criminals to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed.
Homosexual behavior is a misdemeanor offense.
Why does this law exist?
Full text of the law.
The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because it contains a formula for making beer at home.

Stupid and restrictive is EVERYWHERE.
Uh huh! I ain't talkin' old statutes on the books. Weak argument. Almost every state has ridiculous, out-dated, out-moded ones that need to be wiped-out but haven't been yet. In that respect, California does pretty well with an annual "code adjustment, cleansing" bill entitled "Maintenance of the Codes."

Nice try, Nully. No cigar. I'm referring to recent SUBs - Stupid Useless Bills! If you wish to remain mired in the past and an apologist, have at it.

Yup! Experience counts fer nuttin'. Blunderbusses at 50 feet at dawn, Bunco!
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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I don't think Californians themselves are necessarily any "stupider" than anywhere else (besides, I thought Flouridians held that honor???); in most cases it's the POLITICIANS that people vote in. And that includes Bloomberg in NYC. When I spent time there 4 years ago I was surprised at the concentration of fast-food and pizza joints all over the streets ~ something I did not expect to see. Either the man hasn't enough to do or his priorities are completely out of whack. Same thing with the Portland mayor, and I'm GLAD to be in the burbs.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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Default In Texas, It’s Illegal To Drink And NOT Drive

Anyone remember this?

"At one location, for example, agents and police arrested patrons of a hotel bar. Some of the suspects said they were registered at the hotel and had no intention of driving. Arresting authorities said the patrons were a danger to themselves and others."
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:21 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Yessiree! CA rules, even when it doesn't. But, Hey! There's always TX! Between the two, "Dumb and Dumber" leaps immediately to mind.

But if nothing else it's always good for a chuckle or two on this board.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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Anyone remember this?

"At one location, for example, agents and police arrested patrons of a hotel bar. Some of the suspects said they were registered at the hotel and had no intention of driving. Arresting authorities said the patrons were a danger to themselves and others."
That is pretty much anywhere. Being drunk in public is a crime in all states, yes even in bars. It's the enforcement that comes into question. Went through the California ABC certification to sell alcohol at a public fundraiser. The LEO spent about 20 minutes on this issue and our responsibility as servers.

Some state's ABC's are more totalitarian than others.
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