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Old 07-31-2012, 07:00 AM
 
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They do not "love it", and it is not "extremely popular."
Can you actually provide any evidence for this assertion?
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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Gee, I forgot that I should budget for MS, cancer, etc.
Shame on me.
You sure do seem to miss a lot memos Darling !! Get with the programme, try and keep up ,come on you know you can do it !!
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:04 AM
 
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You sure do seem to miss a lot memos Darling !! Get with the programme, try and keep up ,come on you know you can do it !!
Oh, and in the USA, that course of chemotherapy will be $60,000.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:05 AM
 
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I think it's you that needs the study. Marx was clearly a "redistributionist" as is Obama, who embraces Marxism. Perhaps this will help you:

"My first meeting with young Barack Obama raised strong feelings and left me with a positive first impression. At the time, I felt I'd persuaded a young man anticipating a Marxist-Leninist revolution to appreciate the more practical alternative of conventional politics as a channel for his socialist views."
— John Drew, "Meeting Young Obama"

Archived-Articles: Meeting Young Obama
that's a crock of garbage (bolded part shows it's only an opinion anyway)

so what, Barack toyed with the idea of Socialism as a student - many young people do.

did you know that Fidel Castro used to be a fan of Hitler and the Nazis - yet he turned Cuba into a full-on Communist state.

from article:
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[SIZE=3]Whatever impact our encounter might have had on him, I know something about what Barack Obama believed in 1980. At that time, the future president was a doctrinaire Marxist revolutionary, although perhaps -- for the first time -- considering conventional politics as a more practical road to socialism. [/SIZE]
many people go through a Che t-shirt wearing phase, means little long term usually.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:08 AM
 
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And what do you call it when the government places limits on what a private industry may earn in profit, as has been done in the case of the so called "Affordable Care Act?"

What do you call it when the government mandates that a private insurance company cover "pre-existing conditions", which essentially allows one to wait till they are in need to purchase health insurance, and is most assuredly a recipe for bankruptcy of the insurance company?

I don't know what you may call it, but I don't call it free market capitalism, and it sure as hell isn't American. It is totalitarianism. It is tyranny.

And that is only part of what is wrong with the "AFA."

well that is just a ****ing retarded post!

Totalitarianism, tyranny, LOL
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:09 AM
 
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I guess you have no clue when, where and why the term 'teabagger' as reference to conservatives became 'cute'. A little research might be a good thing.
Teabagger is a dig because it has a sexual connotation, but it's not a gay sexual connotation. Only people who are obsessed with gays think it's a gay term.

Do a little research and google it, find me a non biased source that calls it a gay act, just one.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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So you challenge us to find someone who would prefer the US system and then declare that you wouldn't listen to what the person has to say anyway?

LOL!
Nah, I would definitely listen to them. For a start it would be such a rare and precious experience as to warrant my full attention.

Granted I have only been in the UK for almost 24 years but I have yet to meet ONE British person who would swap the NHS for the American system. Whether a top executive, Aristocrat, Surgeon, Accountant, University Professor, Plumber, or pretty much anything in between. Whether someone on the extreme right or the extreme left.

Of course I would listen. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.


I think you will find it pretty Universal in the UK regardless of what walk of life you come from that a Universal Healthcare System is the way to go.

I have met quite a lot of fat cat capitalist right wing people in my time and they would not destroy the NHS. I have met people who would get rid of pretty much every type of social net there is , dismantling the State as much as possible but the NHS is still not to be touched.

I am pretty sure there are a few people who think differently but their numbers will be so tiny as to be insignificant. So insignificant this issue never even arises in Politics.

Politicians who spend their days mud flinging and spewing hate at each other still seem united on that point.

The NHS is sacred. The concept of the NHS is sacred. It might need some tweaks and is most certainly not perfect but finding someone wishing to swap it for an American system is going to be like finding a rare new Orchid. A real trek through the Political and Social Landscape. Right or Left wing Europe wants a Universal Healthcare system.

America's system is to Europeans the most puzzling and bizarrely retrograde inhumane way to deal with health issues.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:13 AM
 
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Your post is laughable! It works? Who have you been talking to that says "it works?" People are left to die for lack of care. That is a fact. Look it up.
Not a fact at all.

The majority of doctors and citizens of the UK support the health service.

Margaret Thatcher had vague ideas of getting rid of it , and then she was soon out of office!

To say that 'people are left to die' is just blatant, untrue propaganda.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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He's on the crazy train alright, and it's non-stop express to crazy town.



Rush Limbaugh: 2012 London Olympics opening ceremony 'socialist' - POLITICO.com
Well, when I was watching the opening ceremony it made me think "this must be what it would be like to welcome the return of Jesus".
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Knightsbridge
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Nothing even remotely in my post gives the slightest clue to what I think or why. I stated bald false assertion.. It's not defensible.
Ah! It took me a while to figure out what you meant by that. There. I have corrected your statement.
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