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Old 07-29-2012, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And MLK tried so hard to get equality and get rid of segregation didn't he ?
And here we are bringing it back..inequality and indirect segregation.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's all about equal outcome, typical egalitarian thinking from 0bama.

"improving educational outcomes for African Americans of all ages"
"improve educational outcomes"
"decreasing the disproportionate number of referrals of African American children from general education"
"increasing college access and success for African American students"

It's all pie in the sly Utopian thinking. 0bama thinks that he say it should happen, and like Jean Luc Picard he just point his finger and "make it so". Meanwhile if mothers of minority children want to send them to private school, 0bama will have none of that.

Like his faux Jobs Council he never attends, this is just another "looky me, I did something" program for him to hang his hat on, as if signing a piece of worthless paper means he really gives a rat's ass.
And, like everyone else, the problem is NOT in the schools and won't be admitted or addressed.
This is nothing more than a do-good bandaid of throwing money and hoping something will happen.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:27 PM
 
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Obama, the racism President.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:29 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I don't think this law is going to make it so people will figuratively get away with murder. The stat-tracking is there so that when an analyst looks at the data, and see that black children are recieving suspensions for spitballs, while other children are getting detentions, they can correct the unfair punishment.
I am a teacher, I know exactly how this will pan out. What will have to happen in some schools if this becomes law or even policy is that African-American and Hispanic children will get talked to for spitballs while white and Asian kids will get detention or suspended, depending on which punishment is out of whack statistically.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I am a teacher, I know exactly how this will pan out. What will have to happen in some schools if this becomes law or even policy is that African-American and Hispanic children will get talked to for spitballs while white and Asian kids will get detention or suspended, depending on which punishment is out of whack statistically.
Oh how close to the truth do you speak.

There's already a program in the schools..called "Communities in Schools" and yes, a certain segment of the school population get to go see the Communities in Schools counselor who has their own office in the school. They don't get detention or suspension like the other kids do. They get "counseled".

http://www.communitiesinschools.org/
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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And MLK tried so hard to get equality and get rid of segregation didn't he ?
And here we are bringing it back..inequality and indirect segregation.
The inequality and indirect segregation is that black students are more likely to face harsher punishments than white students for similar offenses.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Maybe we need to go back to segregated schools. Separate but equal ? Let Black teachers and educators address the issues of the black students without the comparison of others. They can set their own standards.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:01 PM
 
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Maybe we need to go back to segregated schools. Separate but equal ? Let Black teachers and educators address the issues of the black students without the comparison of others. They can set their own standards.
I'd go with that, as long as students aren't forced to segregate. Its kinda like the CBC, except for schools. Race is obviously more important to them than anything
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The inequality and indirect segregation is that black students are more likely to face harsher punishments than white students for similar offenses.
Oh it's a lot more than just discipline.

From the OP link:

"African American student achievement not only lags behind that of their domestic peers by an average of two grade levels, but also behind students in almost every other developed nation. Over a third of African American students do not graduate from high school on time with a regular high school diploma, and only four percent of African American high school graduates interested in college are college-ready across a range of subjects."
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