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Old 07-30-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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It could not be more obvious who is running our country. It is certainly is not the people that we voted for, as our elected officials continually operate against the public interest in favor of corporations who lobby the legislature and make campaign contributions to their candidacy.

In this case, the pentagon wants to stop purhcasing abrams tanks because they have enough and they don't need anymore. However, congressmen on both sides who have been bought and paid for by the tank manufacturer are telling the military what they need.

OMG when are we going to take back our country from the corporations.

The M1 Abrams: The Army tank that could not be stopped - Open Channel
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:35 AM
 
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Abouty 1/3rd of the military budget is like this. Stuff the Pentagon says it does not need and does not want but which the Congress forces them to take because of pork barrel politics. That's why I'm saying the military budget needs to be slashed by at least 1/3rd and all appropriations must actually be something the Pentagon says it actually wants & needs.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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Abouty 1/3rd of the military budget is like this. Stuff the Pentagon says it does not need and does not want but which the Congress forces them to take because of pork barrel politics. That's why I'm saying the military budget needs to be slashed by at least 1/3rd and all appropriations must actually be something the Pentagon says it actually wants & needs.
I doubt that the military budget is the only problem. Most of the laws that we pass or designed to help the businesses that help our congressmen get elected.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:52 AM
 
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Perhaps it's Obama and his Pentagon that are on the wrong side of this issue.

Obama despises the military and Democrats are happy to slash our defense budget so they can waste it on frivolous things like the GAO and it's million dollar parties.

The world isn't getting any safer.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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Perhaps it's Obama and his Pentagon that are on the wrong side of this issue.

Obama despises the military and Democrats are happy to slash our defense budget so they can waste it on frivolous things like the GAO and it's million dollar parties.

The world isn't getting any safer.
More obsolete tanks won't make it any safer. We may as well make battleships again.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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More obsolete tanks won't make it any safer. We may as well make battleships again.

The most advanced tank in the world which no one has built an equal to and you're calling it obsolete?

The article says they want to upgrade the existing ones as opposed to designing a totally new one. Seems rather reasonable to me.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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Americans making tanks is good for the econonmy
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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Actually the existing BB's would be very useful during beachfront real estate negotiations. Just add rocket boost to the big shells and anything within fifty miles could be obliterated. The problem is we don't have anywhere to invade.

One of the reasons the F-35 fighter is still under development is it has contracts in every Congressional District. Unfortunately much of American heavy industry and the associated employment and profits are dependent on military spending. Without military employment many areas of this country would become economic disasters.

I think our military budget should be reduced along with the mission to "Defend the World" from itself. We do not need to protect British Petroleum in Iraq and never did. The money could be better spent on rebuilding our country instead of debuilding others.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:11 AM
 
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Our TROOPS in the field are also begging the Pentagon to allow them to buy Palantir

It's a software program that detects IEDs (the #1 killer of our troops) better than the current product that they are given.

The Pentagon is sitting on it.

This is what an officer said about Palantir:

“there are several databases that IED information is stored on. These databases, although very comprehensive, have to be searched individually for IED reports and currently available tools do not allow for the timely fusion and analysis of the information. Solving very hard analytical problems takes several days when using existing tools against these data sources. In our experience in using the Palantir platform against the same problems, we were able to reduce this time to a few hours. This shortfall translates into operational opportunities missed and unnecessary risk to the force.”
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:18 AM
 
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Abouty 1/3rd of the military budget is like this. Stuff the Pentagon says it does not need and does not want but which the Congress forces them to take because of pork barrel politics. That's why I'm saying the military budget needs to be slashed by at least 1/3rd and all appropriations must actually be something the Pentagon says it actually wants & needs.
While I believe there are instances where this is true, 1/3? I don't think so. You will have to provide some supporting data to convince me.
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