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Old 07-30-2012, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Please remember chemical and biological weapons production is far easier to disperse than building things like guns, airplanes and tanks. If you can make beer you can brew bio weapons. If you can refine petroleum you can make chemical poisons. If you own a few graduate level textbooks and have a few biologists and chemists you know how to make these substances.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well I figure there's these piles of empty crates marked "WMD-Beware" that they move from country to country so they can have something that the drones pick up as reason to invade.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Chemical weapons are easy to make and if you have a industry to make insecticides, weed killers or fumigates you have all you need! Nerve gases are a class of phosphate molecules and were discovered in the search for more effective insecticides. A simple intermediate for chemical reactions to make these chemicals is methyl isocynate which when mixed with water (1) has a highly exothermic reaction, (2) explodes and (3) produces hydrogen cyanide gas. In the 1980s an accident at a Union Carbide plant in Bhopal India. Killed 20,000 and injured at least 100,000 including many cases of blindness.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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It's already acknowledged that Syria was the recipient of Saddam's stockpiles.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Iraq could not produce chemical weapons because the US and the UN conducted Desert Storm in the early 90's, which essentially bombed Iraq back to the stone age. Prior to the invasion, Iran bombed the crap out of Iraq for 8 years. So basically Iran destroyed all of Iraqs chemical weapons facilities, and what was left was destroyed by the USA
Revisionist history anyone?

Saddam had and used chemical weapons on his own people, killing thousands upon thousands.

Iran never "bombed the crap out of Iraq for 8 years". While there is proof that they targeted Saddams nuclear reactor, (To prevent him from enriching fissionable material, sound familiar?), they did not carry on an 8 year campaign of bombing Iraq.

Iran

It WAS clear however that IRAQ used chemical weapons against IRAN during that 8 year war, which was primarily fought in the trenches.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:31 AM
 
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I think the practice of giving weapons to middle eastern despots ended with Reagan.
It ended with the cold war....mostly.

Look around at all the countries with burgeoning nuclear wheapons programs and look where they got their reactors, tech etc. A lot of that is a bad bad leftover from the cold war.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:35 AM
 
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For years the liberal wing and Obama clan have been making a joke about the chemical weapons not found in Iraq

Has anyone actually seen any chemical weapons in Syria?..Other than the word of some spy who doesn't seem to exist?...There were a few like him in Iraq, weren't there?...You know, who the liberals exposed as hoaxes.

The Iraquis also bought equipment for chemical production...Just like the Syrians.

At the invasion , the liberals would not accept the concept that the weapons were sent to Syria (does anyone remember this)...But that was a hoax also....wasn't it?

There's no reason for us to make the same mistake again (by getting involved in Syria) like we did in Iraq...Isn't this correct?
Chemical weapons don't last forever. The chemical weapons that Saddam Hussein once produced would have minimal efficacy -- they might irritate people's eyes and might not be comfortable on the skin; in fact, a few coalition troops did get injured - some severely - when they encountered old weapons left on the battlefields of Iraq from the Iran-Iraq conflict, if memory serves me correct. But the chem warfare arsenal that Saddam Hussein simply did not exist as it was suggested by members of the Bush administration. Whatever Assad has is probably of his own creation, and Iraq was certainly not the only mid-east power that has had that capability.

Try again.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:39 AM
 
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Revisionist history anyone?

Saddam had and used chemical weapons on his own people, killing thousands upon thousands.

Iran never "bombed the crap out of Iraq for 8 years". While there is proof that they targeted Saddams nuclear reactor, (To prevent him from enriching fissionable material, sound familiar?), they did not carry on an 8 year campaign of bombing Iraq.

Iran

It WAS clear however that IRAQ used chemical weapons against IRAN during that 8 year war, which was primarily fought in the trenches.
It's a bit hyperbolic to say that Saddam killed 'his own people'; the people he killed are people he never considered his own. They were Shi'ites, who have more in common with Persians, and Kurds, who have for years been slapped around from all sides by Arabs, Iranians, and Turks. Yes, they lived in his borders, but that's about all they had in common.

Secondly, the Iranians were at war with Iraq for a period of 8 years; they were repelling an invasion during that time. I think that's what he was referring to. It's also worth pointing out that the U.S. helped Iraq during that time.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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But the chem warfare arsenal that Saddam Hussein simply did not exist as it was suggested by members of the Bush administration.
Wrong president. That info was gathered by UNSCOM and the Clinton admin.

Watch the video:


President Clinton orders attack on Iraq - YouTube


Read the dates on the bottom of the Dept of Defense slides on WMDs (click on each slide to enlarge, transcript is below slides):

DoD News: DoD Briefing on Iraqi Denial and Deception

The Clinton admin and UNSCOM told us Saddam Hussein had a chem warfare arsenal.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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Iraq could not produce chemical weapons because the US and the UN conducted Desert Storm in the early 90's, which essentially bombed Iraq back to the stone age. Prior to the invasion, Iran bombed the crap out of Iraq for 8 years. So basically Iran destroyed all of Iraqs chemical weapons facilities, and what was left was destroyed by the USA
And you probably believe in the Tooth Fairy!
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