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Your logic is very twisted. I never understood why you don't want to choose your sexual preference. You seem so proud of it yet you blame it on your genetics as if it is a disease.
1. I'm not homosexual, as I said in the very post you quoted. Proof that you're not reading, you're just arguing? I think so.
2. I never claimed they were born gay. I only said that it hasn't been firmly established through science that they aren't. Therefore your claim that gay men "choose to discriminate against women" cannot be taken seriously.
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It does not matter to me if they were born gay or not. That has no relevance to the moral issue.
Agreed. So why did you bring it up, saying gay men choose to be gay?
And what is your reasoning (and where is your evidence) to argue that being gay is immoral or harmful? Because of course, you would need something like this to justify discriminating against them...
Again, here's some stuff that is relevant (and apparently inarguable) to the issue of gay marriage as well as gay adoption...
Here is evidence that might suggest gays are just as good (better, actually) at making a marriage work than heterosexuals:
Any business that regards a paying customer market as "undesirables" should not be in business. Its morally wrong and terrible business practice. You see any "whites only" restaurants anywhere around these days?? No, because this isn't the butt**** south and midwest in the 50's.
To bad we don't have those restaurants anymore people should be allowed to eat in all black all white all asian all homosexual all straight eateries if they so choose and shouldn't have to worry about a bunch of cry baby activists marching and stomping their feet like over grown children.
To bad we don't have those restaurants anymore people should be allowed to eat in all black all white all asian all homosexual all straight eateries if they so choose and shouldn't have to worry about a bunch of cry baby activists marching and stomping their feet like over grown children.
I know it must be horrible to be allowed to have choice in things!
Lol, you actually believe you're for people's right to choose! How cute. What about homosexuals having their choices limited because you (for no good reason) want to discriminate against them?
A business should be able to set it up however they want. I bet you. A whites only eatery opens an black only one will follow because it breeds competition.
A business should be able to set it up however they want. I bet you. A whites only eatery opens an black only one will follow because it breeds competition.
Yeah, among other things the majority of us don't want in our midst. The segregation you're calling for is a vile hex on humanity I will do all I can to keep my child from having to experience.
A business should do what's right. I noticed when I said there's no good reason to discriminate against gays, you didn't argue the point. Does that mean even you know there's no justification for it? If not, what is the justification for it, hmmmmm?
Yeah, among other things the majority of us don't want in our midst. The segregation you're calling for is a vile hex on humanity I will do all I can to keep my child from having to experience.
A business should do what's right. I noticed when I said there's no good reason to discriminate against gays, you didn't argue the point. Does that mean even you know there's no justification for it? If not, what is the justification for it, hmmmmm?
You won't allow your child freedom of choice? The option to experience things for themselves? Wow aren't you so nice. Like a dictator. I don't see discrimination I see a business owner using his freedom to choose who he bakes cakes for or not. If he refused to make me a cake I am not going to throw a fit and complain about it. I just go to a different cake store. Simple as pie.
If he refused to make me a cake I am not going to throw a fit and complain about it. I just go to a different cake store. Simple as pie.
Wow another one, I am reasonably sure(ya'll think alike) if a store refused to serve you for whatever reason you would be to the lawyer the next day(same day if possible)getting the lawsuit ready.
When you open a business you give up the right to decide who you will and will not serve, aside local health and alcohol ordinances.
Children have limited freedoms, and are usually at the mercy of their parents/guardians. Are children allowed to choose whether or not to attend school? Do they have the freedom to choose whether or not to drink, smoke, drive a car, etc? Until you turn 18 (or 21), you do not have the same "freedom of choice" that an adult would... but I'm not sure what that has to do with businesses' anti-discrimination laws, anyway.
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I don't see discrimination I see a business owner using his freedom to choose who he bakes cakes for or not.
Good thing you're not a lawyer, then, as you clearly have no clue how our laws work in the US.
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If he refused to make me a cake I am not going to throw a fit and complain about it. I just go to a different cake store. Simple as pie.
Are you sure about that? I have a feeling you wouldn't take it so lightly, if a gay business owner refused to serve you for being straight... in fact, I bet you'd be screaming VERY loudly and posting about "homosexual hate" on this board.
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