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Old 07-31-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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He says he has done it many times b4. WHY??
Because there is this little thing called the U.S. Constitution - part of which states "a well regulated militia, neccesary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

The better question is "why not"?

The proper thing for the cops to have done was to detain the man - investigate and determine that he was not a threat - and to let him back into the theater to enjoy the movie. If that made other movie-goers uncomfortable - the theater is certainly within it's rights to ban firearms - however that may also hurt the business.

The municipal statute is unconstitutional - the police officers should do the right thing and elect to not enforce it.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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The key may be or not be signs, as criminals don't usually bother with signs.. They are not bothered alot about laws either.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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Because there is this little thing called the U.S. Constitution - part of which states "a well regulated militia, neccesary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

The better question is "why not"?
If the local government deems it illegal AND there are signs posted stating such at the public entrance to the theater. That's why.

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Local governments may prohibit the open carrying of a firearm in a building or specific area within the local government„s jurisdiction if they post signs at the public entrances to the building or area informing persons that open carrying is prohibited.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Nice assumption and I don't have any fear of guns. I think people who need guns to resolve fights are cowards anyways. I don't feel I need to carry one around with me 24/7 and I don't care if people choose to themselves but to say that someone is paranoid because they don't feel comfortable around guns is asinine. You don't know their history.

But let's be honest. Exercising your 2nd amendment rights is fine and dandy but to walk into a Colorado theater less than 25 minutes from the site of a recent mass shooting around a week from said shooting and carrying it in the open (illegally albeit according to the article) then you are not exercising any rights. You are being a moron. Plain and simple. You say he isn't. I say he is. It's an opinion.
I would ask you to factor old people who live in rural areas when you say there is something wrong with people who feel they NEEd a gun 24/7. I'm old, live alone, considered prey by young desert meth thugs. From the time I call 911, it takes 25-30 minutes for a LEO to roll up to my spread. I carry open on my property and in the desert. I carry concealed when out in public. I'm not afraid of anything.
FYI: I would never carry open in a crowded movie theater whether legal or not to do so. I feel gun owners have a responsibility to portrey gun owners in the best light to the general public. I respect the people who don't carry and I'm sensitive to their needs to feel secure. I would never flash my gun in public just to make some point. I show consideration to non gun owners as an example of what responsible gun owners are about.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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how do you tell the good form the bad??
Simple - the "good" carries the firearm in a safe manner and uses it properly and ethically.

The "bad" - DON'T do the above.

Good = the gentleman who was openly carrying his weapon in Thornton.

Bad = James Eagan Holmes in Aurora.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:27 PM
 
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Generally when you are carrying a gun on your person you're not afraid of anything. That's just how it works.
I hate to see this type of remark.

A gun is not a macho toy to be "not afraid of anything".

In situations where I carry on my person, it is because I have a heightened level of concern while in that situation. I recognize that I might exerience personal danger in the situation which would require me to defend myself or those I am responsible for. Carrying a weapon comes with carrying a huge responsibility which better be executed with a level head and some humility.

If you have respect for weapons and the life they can take, I have no problem with you carrying it around me. If you carry it to be macho, you are a danger to yourself and others.

That is just how it works.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:30 PM
 
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If the local government deems it illegal AND there are signs posted stating such at the public entrance to the theater. That's why.
Oh yeah dinkweed local dummermint trumps the CONS any day.. Do you not, understand Shall Not be Infringed? My grammar can be poor, mostly when gun grabbers like you make me crazy, but this is over the top.....
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Let's see here. Private businesses can decide that they want no guns on their premises and it's not taking away rights. The government is not doing anything. It's a private business. Sucks, but after what happened, it's understandable that theaters are being overly cautious.

As far as him being arrested, the statements from the article flip-flop as to what the actual law is.
that is correct. It is established law, federal and state, that the rights of a property owner trumps the rights of a gun owner. Any property owner in the most gun friendly state can post their property or business as off limits for firearms. Even out here in the wild west, most drinking establishments ban any weapons of any sort in their bars and for good reason. Been going on since 1850 or so no matter what laws have been passed. You come to my house, I'll be armed, you won't, unless I've known you for years or you're the law.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:38 PM
 
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I would ask you to factor old people who live in rural areas when you say there is something wrong with people who feel they NEEd a gun 24/7. I'm old, live alone, considered prey by young desert meth thugs. From the time I call 911, it takes 25-30 minutes for a LEO to roll up to my spread. I carry open on my property and in the desert. I carry concealed when out in public. I'm not afraid of anything.
FYI: I would never carry open in a crowded movie theater whether legal or not to do so. I feel gun owners have a responsibility to portrey gun owners in the best light to the general public. I respect the people who don't carry and I'm sensitive to their needs to feel secure. I would never flash my gun in public just to make some point. I show consideration to non gun owners as an example of what responsible gun owners are about.
That's in your home and if you looked later in the thread I meant non law abiding citizens (gang members, bikers etc). I worded it wrong.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Oh yeah dinkweed local dummermint trumps the CONS any day.. Do you not, understand Shall Not be Infringed? My grammar can be poor, mostly when gun grabbers like you make me crazy, but this is over the top.....
Don't blame me. It's written in the Colorado Gun Laws. Talk to them.
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