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Old 07-31-2012, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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You can see this on a regular basis in their reporting about gun issues. The thread by Little Acorn on the Second Amendment got me thinking about this. How many times do we see journalists tripped up by 'well regulated militia' clause. We've all seen it, many a time. Consider a simple analogy: "a well educated citizenry being necessary to a democratic state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed." (cred to writer J. Neil Schulman). From this example, it becomes clear that the 'militia' clause does not constitute a restriction, but merely an explanatory aside. But it's too much for most journalists to grasp.

Many journalists also struggle with terminology. Consider a couple examples from reporting on the recent shooting in Colorado. The shooter was using a drum magazine, which are notoriously unreliable, and true to form it jammed, probably sparing some people from getting shot. Not only did the idiots in the media miss that salient point, several laughably misidentifed the drum magazine. The New York Times, referred to it as a "barrel magazine."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/us...l-arsenal.html

There are barrels, and there are magazines, but there ain't no such thing as a 'barrel magazine.' Google reveals that there is a periodical publication out of Maryland called Cracker Barrel Magazine. Maybe that's what the NYT had in mind.

Or maybe they got it from NBC News. Here, an NBC reporter refers to the CO shooter as having a '100 round ammuntion barrel.' (listen at 2:10 mark to hear it):
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Again, there is ammunition, and there are barrels, but the 'ammunition barrel' does not exist.

Rush Limbaugh created kind of a cottage industry with his 'media montages' showing how one reporter would say something, and the others would all flock to say the same thing. Imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, but IMO it's also can be a sign of low intellectual capacity, of inability to think independently. It's time to realize that many in the media just aren't very bright.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I can do what most of the main journalists of today do with a Google search.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:29 PM
 
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I imagine the media is as bright as they have been in the past.

Jonah Lehrer Resigns From The New Yorker After Making Up Dylan Quotes for His Book - NYTimes.com
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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America seems to agree, judging by the low # of viewers. Left wing media outlets, and all their blunders, simply don't represent the sentiment of the people.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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How can a kid who has never seen a gun or been exposed to guns accurately report on guns? He Googles for information, that's how. And his source is often a blog or opinion piece, or worse, Wikipedia. Prepared by kids just like him.

In our era of real-time tweets and news, "reporters" and "journalists" don't have time to actually check facts. And they probably don't know how, anyway. The Mainstream Media is a large amalgamation of kids cutting and pasting their way across television, Internet, and social media. I am amazed at how prevalent the practice is.

There was a group of kids at Cal who decided to test the theory and created a fictional story which they posted in blog format. It was picked up and reposted dozens of times by the MSM. The named source was a fictional character. Not one person validated the quotes or they would not have reposted the story.

That is what passes as news today.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I can do what most of the main journalists of today do with a Google search.
I have no doubt that is increasingly exactly what they are doing. Did you see the story on how ABC's Brian Ross googled up 'James Holmes' (the CO shooter), found a 50 year old man named James Holmes, and suggested that it might be the shooter?
TCA: ABC News chief apologizes for Aurora mistake by Brian Ross - Los Angeles Times
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:59 PM
 
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So what term do intellectuals like yourself use to describe the current syndicate? Fox, CNN, MSN, etc.
Compared to Limbaugh listeners, my cat is an intellectual. Fox news is not part of the "mainstream media"

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the mainstream media (MSM), also humorously known by many of its very large number of vocal critics as the lamestream media, are the increasingly liberal media organs that censor the dissemination of news.

The common denominator of the "mainstream media" is their censoring or downplaying stories that would lead viewers to conservative conclusions, and their use of photo bias, placement bias and other forms of deception to mislead viewers into drawing incorrect liberal conclusions. The term mainstream media usually refers to how the majority of commercial-based or taxpayer-funded news reporting and commentary consist of liberal bias, while falsely pretending to be objective providers of information.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I said most and not all. It's clear that Noam Chomsky views the mainstream media much different than you. You view it as some type of socialist conspiracy, he views it as a tool for the elite ruling class. Then again , you probably think that the ruling elites are communists, thus proving my original point.

Now that's flawless

Where did I say it was a 'socialist conspiracy.' I said it was a confederacy of dunces.

I like to watch birds. If you watch the flock birds, like the common house sparrow, their modus operandi is to do whatever the other birds are doing. If you toss a seed or nut near where sparrows are roosting they might not do anything. But if one of them decides to fly down and investigate, all will fly down in a mad rush. I wouldn't call them as dumb as a journalist, but as birds go, they are not very bright.

By contrast birds like black-capped chickadees travel in small, loosely knit groups, and tend to do their own thing. Such birds tend to exhibit incredible intelligence despite their tiny size. The media is not a conspiracy; it's more of a flock.
RUSH: Outrageous Media Montage of State Controlled Media Discussing Obama’s Arrival In Ireland – Daily Rush Limbaugh & Conservative Media Post
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I have no doubt that is increasingly exactly what they are doing. Did you see the story on how ABC's Brian Ross googled up 'James Holmes' (the CO shooter), found a 50 year old man named James Holmes, and suggested that it might be the shooter?
TCA: ABC News chief apologizes for Aurora mistake by Brian Ross - Los Angeles Times
Yeah, that was pretty pathetic. He did mention in the broadcast that he wasn't sure. Probably someone screaming in his ear telling him to say it.

Richard Engel is a "main stream" media guy I respect, but he is on a short list.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:04 PM
 
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So instead you say it's state controlled?? Well if the state is headed by a Socialist, and the media is controlled by the state, doesn't that mean the media is Socialist??
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