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Where did you jump to that conclusion? What the heck? I never said to pen them up, I just think that abortion should be ILLEGAL because it deprives the baby of life. Pregnant women are TWO people. The woman and the baby (which may be a man or a woman). You can throw the law at me all you want, doesn't change the fact that abortion deprives a baby of life.
Jump to a conclusion? No, followed your "logic".
IF women are FORCED to have unwanted babies YOU would HAVE to lock them up, pen them up, put them in jail......or they would find away to have an abortion....they have for thousands of years....why do YOU think YOU can stop it???
Malformed fetus is a very small percentage among the millions of primarily black abortions. PP is racist and a genocidal organization. People like you would allow abortion for the wrong gender or eye color. You are the extremists!
We were discussing late term abortions....weren't we? That is when abortions are performed due to malformed fetuses.
Fine example of how you people twist the facts.
So....you don't think black women are smart enough to determine whether or not they want to abort.....got it.
If one does not want to become pregnant - there is an excellent method to prevent such an "unfortunate" occurrence - its called abstinence.
So a married couple, who are not ready for a child, should just grin and bear it, and not have any kind of sex at all?
Sorry, but your UTOPIAN imaginary society doesn't exist.
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Only irresponsible, promiscuous, pro-abortion people(male and female) seem to consider a human baby as a disease and "parasite".
Responsibility is when a woman , or couple decide not to have a child (an abortion) because they know they can't take care of it. And it doesn't force a woman to go through a pregnancy she doesn't want.
Will you pay for her medical bills, the actual birth (cesarian is not cheap if she has to get one), and the child's care up until he/she 18 years old? If no, then you have no business telling what others can do with their bodies and their money.
Your conflation of war and abortion is really stupid. We get that you are anti-war(a shallow position if there ever was one). No "babies, pregnant women, children, or other innocents" are purposely killed using U.S. tax dollars(that has been used as a stategy by other nations - in several wars - but not by the U.S.) - tragedies happen and that is the nature of war.
If you disagree with certain wars - that is another topic and has no place in an abortion thread. If your position is that no war should take place - guess what - we agree!
However - thinking that eliminating all war at the snap at a finger is the height of naivety - aren't you always saying that only you have a grasp of history? You don't understand history very well if you aren't aware of why ending all war is only an idealistic dream.
Now - lets stay on the topic. I am quite willing to discuss certain wars and the nature of their prosecution in another thread. Here we are discussing abortion - which does involve the PURPOSEFUL destruction of innocent human life. Carry on.
^^^This statement is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh.
Here's why:
However - thinking that eliminating legal abortion at the snap of a finger will stop abortions is the height of naivety - aren't you always saying that only you have a grasp of history? You don't understand history very well if you aren't aware of why ending abortion is only an idealistic dream.
Your conflation of war and abortion is really stupid."""
No, saying you don't want a penny of your money going towards abortion but being delighted that much MORE than a penny of your taxes goes towards PURPOSELY killing babies and women and children in wars is stupid and hypocritical.
"" We get that you are anti-war(a shallow position if there ever was one).""
DUH! Never ever posted I was anti-war so you LIE!
"""" No "babies, pregnant women, children, or other innocents" are purposely killed using U.S. tax dollars(that has been used as a stategy by other nations - in several wars - but not by the U.S.) - tragedies happen and that is the nature of war. """
Oh, right! The women and children aren't PURPOSELY killed...but they're DEAD all the same! I know YOU call them "collateral damage" but I call them LIVING humans.
"""If you disagree with certain wars - that is another topic and has no place in an abortion thread. If your position is that no war should take place - guess what - we agree!
However - thinking that eliminating all war at the snap at a finger is the height of naivety - aren't you always saying that only you have a grasp of history? """
Nope, lying again! I said you have NO knowledge of history and I have been proven correct.
"""You don't understand history very well if you aren't aware of why ending all war is only an idealistic dream.
Now - lets stay on the topic. I am quite willing to discuss certain wars and the nature of their prosecution in another thread. Here we are discussing abortion - which does involve the PURPOSEFUL destruction of innocent human life.
Carry on.
However - thinking that eliminating all abortions at the snap at a finger( or by making them illegal) is the height of naivety - aren't you always saying that only you have a grasp of history? You don't understand history very well if you aren't aware of why ending all abortions is only an idealistic dream.
Responsibility is when a woman , or couple decide not to have a child (an abortion) because they know they can't take care of it. And it doesn't force a woman to go through a pregnancy she doesn't want.
Will you pay for her medical bills, the actual birth (cesarian is not cheap if she has to get one), and the child's care up until he/she 18 years old? If no, then you have no business telling what others can do with their bodies and their money.
The parents should pay for the medical bills and the child's care up until he/she is 18 yrs old - that responsibility became theirs when they chose to make the mother pregnant.
If they choose not to do so - then their are plenty of people who wish to adopt a child.
Terminating that pregnancy is shirking the responsibility that comes with being sexually active - one does not act impulsively - then kill a "mistake".
Woman hater = someone who values human life and wishes to protect it(if you are a woman and you value human life and wish to protect it - you hate yourself).
- from the Liberal's Dictionary.
No, not from your "liberal Dictionary"", more like pulled from your puritan rightwing A-- !
^^^This statement is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh.
Here's why:
However - thinking that eliminating legal abortion at the snap at a finger will stop abortions is the height of naivety - aren't you always saying that only you have a grasp of history? You don't understand history very well if you aren't aware of why ending abortion is only an idealistic dream.
LMAO!
So - do you support overturning laws against theft, murder, drunk driving, ect...? After all - you seem to think that the effect of making something illegal is to stop the activity entirely, right? We have laws against those things - and none of those activities has ended entirely - nor will they. The idea is that society makes it clear that we do not tolerate those actions - and that is why they are crimes.
The same would occur with abortion - lawbreakers will continue to kill babies - but it will no longer be legally sanctioned. We will as a society - uphold the value of human life - and less abortions will take place - many children will have a chance to live - and we will not be barbarians because we condone the wanton destruction of human life because it is convenient to do so.
The baby's brain is not developed enough for any self awareness until well into the 28th week of conception. In other words, if we monitored the EEG of a fetus before 28 weeks, we would find the same electrical activity as someone who we consider brain dead.
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but I call them LIVING humans.
