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Old 08-04-2012, 10:24 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Why does it seem to take a rocket scientist to figure out the jobs are going overseas because it's cheaper to build things there PLUS with jobs overseas corporations never have to worry about unions, strikes and prima-donna workers?

Want jobs to come back to America?

Lower the minimum wage and outlaw unions....
Even if so, then why can't those companies outsource the jobs on their own... why must the taxpayer pay them to do it?!
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Amazing how Republicans can have their constituents bend logic to justify supporting a party that is behind both broken government and the outsourcing of American jobs.

The Dumbing Down rolls on....
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:39 PM
 
Location: NJ
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This issue is laughable, another case Americans are 20 years BEHIND the times. News Flash: Robots and computer software will eliminate far more jobs than outsourcing for years to come.

At my last 4 employers, we had less than 1/2 the headcount in Accounts Receivable versus 1992, despite having 5 times the revenue, between growth and buying companies. The reason is 90+% of the checks/electronic payments are coded, to process automatically. Only the 10% who either shortpay or fat finger an invoice number require any A/R entry.

On a factory floor, at any corp doing a few tens of millions annually in sales (a low threshhold), most packout people are now robots.

In 1992, robots were not this good, and then they cost far more. Now packout robot handling a delicate product (meaning its movements are precise) can be had for little more than the cost of 2 employees for one year. After that, investment paid for itself, and the robot does not earn addional vacation time via its tenure.

So that is why the thread topic is so 1992.
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Even if so, then why can't those companies outsource the jobs on their own... why must the taxpayer pay them to do it?!

Ungrateful serf! It's a privilege finance your superiors, even while they're taking the food from your mouth!
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Old 08-04-2012, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Here
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This issue is laughable, another case Americans are 20 years BEHIND the times. News Flash: Robots and computer software will eliminate far more jobs than outsourcing for years to come.

At my last 4 employers, we had less than 1/2 the headcount in Accounts Receivable versus 1992, despite having 5 times the revenue, between growth and buying companies. The reason is 90+% of the checks/electronic payments are coded, to process automatically. Only the 10% who either shortpay or fat finger an invoice number require any A/R entry.

On a factory floor, at any corp doing a few tens of millions annually in sales (a low threshhold), most packout people are now robots.

In 1992, robots were not this good, and then they cost far more. Now packout robot handling a delicate product (meaning its movements are precise) can be had for little more than the cost of 2 employees for one year. After that, investment paid for itself, and the robot does not earn addional vacation time via its tenure.

So that is why the thread topic is so 1992.
Winner winner chicken dinner
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Before being quick to denounce those who voted against the bill, read the amendements to the bill that were added and not in the original bill's text.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...emp/~bdaWhWZ:1[1-12](Amendments_For_S.3364)&./temp/~bdUtlY
Link to each amendment to the bill
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Congressional Record - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

First of twelve, lots of reading. Just the titles tells you what you need to know.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:15 AM
 
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innovation and automation is killing the job market. not outsourcing.

As technology improves, automation is replacing a human worker.

Machines can make our clothes now.

Machines can now fully build a car.

Machines can make our products; what used to take 10 people to design, something, now requires 1/3 rd the staff.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:30 AM
 
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Oh so it's not outsourcing, it's ATMs that kill jobs now?

Roffle.
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