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Old 08-06-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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There's a big difference between the republicanism of William F. Buckley of the 60s and 70s and the Republicanism of a Sarah Palin of the 21st century.
There's a big difference between an Eisenhower or a Reagan and a G. W. Bush or a Newt Gingrich.
Anyone who denies that the far right, conservative wing of the republican party has hijacked the GOP is in serious denial. Even the republicans admit it.
I fear Romney more than any republican politician alive. Why? Because he has no backbone. No spine to speak of. No political ideology of his own. His only agenda is to get a Mormon elected to the Presidency. His Allegiance is to his church and not to his country. He will rubber stamp the far right, fascist agenda without a second thought to achieve his goal.
You need to learn to read .....

Economically, yes, things have changed for the worse. Socially, nothing has changed

There is a big difference.......yes....... on ECONOMIC issues. The lefties are using propaganda to say that Republicans all of a sudden are against all those social things.... when they never were for them.

....And non thinkers are falling for it
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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Oddly ironic bow, but one can mark the beginning of the progressive era as, ::::::drum:::::::roll, 1913. The 100th anniversary is coming in January. I think it is time for the pendulum to swing back, to the right.
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What you cherry picked, looking past the rest and then complain about, is all caused by a controlling progressive government and the experiment of social engineering. Something that at one time was non-existent in this nation. Research: The Progressive Era.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Not really. Clinton raised taxes. Obama hasn't. Obama has continued all of Bush's policies. I'd say the left has moved further right.
All Obama talks about it raising taxes.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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You've been partaking of their medicinal weed, haven't you? Good lord, this is so far from reality as to be comedic.
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No, history shows that Romney has an inclination to pander to his party and flip his position on issues when needed to vote. I don't believe Romney believes half the things that comes out of his mouth when he's pandering for the vote since you don't just change your political positions on a whim like that.

And to address two incorrect statements you made earlier: no the DNC hasn't made a swing to the left. They may have inched a little to the left socially by adopting gay marriage as the national platform, but overall when it comes to other issues, the DNC is a center right party. Obama is a center right president. Clinton was a center right president. Romney is center right. Tea party types are far right.

And there's no culture of poverty which is something the far right likes to believe as it paints poor people as being stupid and lazy welfare munchers. Ironically it says more about the people who believe what pundits tell them than the people they like to target.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:27 AM
 
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As I stated in my topic here

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-board-18.html

the GOP has been moving further and further toward the right thanks to the "grassroots" tea party fueled by funding from Koch Industries. Now moderate conservatives are seen as being ultra left wing socialist commies because they correctly believe the president isn't a socialist that single sex marriage is destroying America.





Kansas GOP Campaigns To Exile Moderates : NPR


The Republican drift rightward is not about the Tea Party. This rightward drift has been going on for decades. I didn't see it until the 90's.

The biggest evidence is that when the Democratic party supports Republican policy ideas like the ACA healthcare bill, like Cap and Trade on emission, like the dream act, like the idea of economic stimulus, like etc, this keeps happening. I don't know how Republicans don't see this. They are literally turning their backs on their own political ideas of just a short while ago, and becoming even more radical.


It used to be controversial for Republican candidates to say they were against abortions in cases of rape and incest, now many Republicans openly admit this.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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You've been partaking of their medicinal weed, haven't you? Good lord, this is so far from reality as to be comedic.
It's sad watching people like you assert your beliefs when you probably couldn't even tell me the basics of the spectrum or the socioeconomics and psychology of poverty. People who are overtly ideological are so attached to their ideology that they're almost incapable exercising any kind of independent thinking. It's as if their ideology is a substitute for a religion.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I don't what the hell you're talking about, I honestly don't. Cherry pick what? Looking past what? Complaining about what?

Your post is oddly cryptic.

Can you elaborate or something?


If one cannot see past their nose, what else is their to elaborate on.
Ignorance causes one to repeat history and find the hard way, the same results of their forefathers.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:17 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Oddly ironic bow, but one can mark the beginning of the progressive era as, ::::::drum:::::::roll, 1913. The 100th anniversary is coming in January. I think it is time for the pendulum to swing back, to the right.


We tried the grand experiment. People got really rich and powerful. Now we see the bubble it has cause, creating a two class society of power and servant. We got away from England for that.


POP!
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:21 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You've been partaking of their medicinal weed, haven't you? Good lord, this is so far from reality as to be comedic.

I don't think that is the issue. It is far worse than the effects of weed.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Republican drift rightward is not about the Tea Party. This rightward drift has been going on for decades. I didn't see it until the 90's.

The biggest evidence is that when the Democratic party supports Republican policy ideas like the ACA healthcare bill, like Cap and Trade on emission, like the dream act, like the idea of economic stimulus, like etc, this keeps happening. I don't know how Republicans don't see this. They are literally turning their backs on their own political ideas of just a short while ago, and becoming even more radical.


It used to be controversial for Republican candidates to say they were against abortions in cases of rape and incest, now many Republicans openly admit this.

Progressivism, is a cancer that has roots in both parties. We have not had a Conservative President, since Calvin Coolidge. Which just happened to be, the most prosperous time in the nation, right after the biggest economic collapse in the nation.
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