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...I thought I knew most everyone at Columbia. I certainly thought I’d heard of all of my fellow Political Science majors. But not Obama (or as he was known then- Barry Soetoro). I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him. And none of the classmates that I knew at Columbia have ever met him, saw him, or heard of him...
Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student.
At first it seems as though he's claiming Obama never even attended school there, as he states neither he nor anybody he knew there ever met him. Then a few paragraphs later he gives us his "gut belief" that Obama attended school there as a foreign student. So which is it?
Then there is no problem release the records or tell your **** stick POS President to admit that call for Romney to release more tax records was wrong and misguided.
Tax records are not equal to college transcripts. Presidents including Bush have never released their college transcripts. (Bush's were leaked). Romney released his record from his freshman year in high school which also is not a college transcript. John McCain released his college rank, but not his transcript. John Kerry made his college transcript public only after he lost his election in 2004.
In the last 30 years, only McCain released two years of tax returns. Every other nominee has released at least 5 years worth of returns. Bob Dole released 30 years of returns. Romney's father released 12 years of returns. Obama released 7 years of returns in 2008 and has since released his more recent returns.
Btw, Barack Obama was called Barry, but he never used his stepfather's last name and his stepfather never adopted him. He used Barry Obama.
He did hang around with foreign students also mainly, it seems, because he was still not comfortable in his own skin.
There is a new bio out which talks more about his childhood, his college years and his struggle for identity. It talks about his smoking pot and the kids he hung out with as well.
Both Obama and Romney are intelligent men if you go by how they speak and present themselves. While we have only his word for it, Obama has said his gpa at Columbia was 3.7. Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review, taught constitutional law, has two bestselling books to his credit.
Romney graduated from Brigham Young University with a 3.97 grade point average and was in the top 5% of his class at Harvard Business School, where he simultaneously earned a law degree.
At first it seems as though he's claiming Obama never even attended school there, as he states neither he nor anybody he knew there ever met him. Then a few paragraphs later he gives us his "gut belief" that Obama attended school there as a foreign student. So which is it?
It's both of course. That is actually # 7 on the list of "The Ten Key Characteristics of Nut-Job Conspiracy Theorists"
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7. Simultaneous contradictory beliefs.
Nut-jobs often imagine at the same time and even in the same sentence that (for example) they are fighting forces which are both super-humanly brilliant and powerful … and completely incompetent.
This whole discussion reminds me of Wayne Allyn Root emails that I get from conservative family members.
On one hand, Root claims nobody, including himself ever knew Obama.
On the other hand, Root knows for a fact that Obama wants to destroy the country with his Marxist agenda.
You can't have it both ways. Yet another reason Romney loses in November. Obviously, Romney is not Root, but if you don't think all this birther/Muslim/Marxist crap is a huge turnoff to a lot of independents, think again.
The Columbia website says foreign students need a student visa. Does a U.S. citizen need a student visa?
I didn't dig through the Columbia website, but it's very possible that when they have American students who've spent most of their life abroad, they may provide some of the international support services to those students that they provide to foreign nationals--you're right--they wouldn't request a visa, but they could put them into some of the support programs. I can't see where they would even consider it unless they had an American student who had never lived in the US. It could be things like initially putting them with an academic advisor that deals with foreign students and understands the challenges they might face, or programs that help foreign students acclimate to American culture. I've taught a few classes at a small college here (part time instructor) and I know they provide English as a Second language support for some, and cultural assimilation information for all of them. They have picnics and organize fun activities for the international students so they can get to know each other, and they help them understand the culture and language/slang better so they'll have a better college experience. It's nothing that would give them any kind of advantage over American students (not like the birthers are trying to claim). It's more to help the kids fit in.
The part where Columbia tells foreign applicants to apply for a student visa?
No. The part where Columbia's website says that being an international student has nothing to do with your citizenship.
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