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Old 08-07-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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But Harry Reid has been debunked numerous times too.
Ah... you leap right to the logical fallacy of tu quoque. As we used to say in Ranger School, "Nice attack. Wrong hill."

I am not and never have been a Democrat. So I really do not give a crap about Harry Reid.

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You DO hold the same standard for Democrats as you do for Republicans don't you?
Absolutely.

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I mean, you wouldn't be hypocritical and NOT DEMAND that Obama PROVE his innocence just like Romney MUST prove his......right?
Obama has already proved he is a natural born US citizen.

Mitt's turn.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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This is not about where he was born, Obama was born in Hawaii. This claim is that he used his foreign born fathers to convince schools that he was foreign born to get special considerations; which would make him a liar and a fraud.
Like Elizabeth Warren?
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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Ah... you leap right to the logical fallacy of tu quoque. As we used to say in Ranger School, "Nice attack. Wrong hill."

I am not and never have been a Democrat. So I really do not give a crap about Harry Reid.


Absolutely.


Obama has already proved he is a natural born US citizen.

Mitt's turn.
Nice attack, wrong topic. This would prove that Obama is guilty of fraud.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Uuuh yeah; but what possible difference could this make now? He was elected first term with that spectre already hanging over his head. The American electorate demonstrated they weren't overly concerned, didn't they?

Would those who voted for him, based solely on his race, necessarily give a crap if he was from Mars?

Birther's need to assign a value to any revelation this late in the game to discovering:

1/ He is not a citizen of the U.S. by birth.
2/ He did not avail himself of an education through citizen's rights.
3/ He lied.

Will any of this matter? It's not like it's the first time you'veknowingly elected a President who lies like a wet rug, is it?
No. His supporters will vote for him regardless of his lies and his performance in office. All this investigation crap is a wasted effort.

If you want to defeat Obama, just get out the vote. You CANNOT change the minds of his supporters.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It's up to Obama to prove this false by releasing his records.
Nope. It's not. Not that it matters.

I just checked the Constitution again. I checked the US Code and relevant state statutes too. Being a foreign exchange student is not against any law. So even were it true (a thought so idiotic that only Birthers, Obamahaters and general nut-jobs would consider it), so what?
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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This is not about where he was born, Obama was born in Hawaii. This claim is that he used his foreign born fathers to convince schools that he was foreign born to get special considerations; which would make him a liar and a fraud.
Not even close.

One need not be foreign born to be a foreign exchange student.

Try again.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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An article based entirely on "gut instinct" that there is skeleton in Obama's closet? I'm so impressed.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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Nope. It's not. Not that it matters.

I just checked the Constitution again. I checked the US Code and relevant state statutes too. Being a foreign exchange student is not against any law. So even were it true (a thought so idiotic that only Birthers, Obamahaters and general nut-jobs would consider it), so what?
So what? It would prove he lied about either being a NBC or that he was a foreign exchange student. Pick your poison. He needs to release his records to prove this a lie, no?
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Nice attack, wrong topic. This would prove that Obama is guilty of fraud.
Let's pretend for a nanosecond that this baseless and idiotic accusation was true.

What "fraud" are you hallucinating?
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:55 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Like Elizabeth Warren?
Yes, Like Elizabeth Warren.

Elizabeth Warren’s Birthday Gift From GOP: An Ancestry.com Account - ABC News

Democrats = The end justifies the means. Integrity? What's that?
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