I anticipate a "tie" in the two major social issues.
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I disagree in part. On gay marriage, it will come and it will come a the Federal Level. On abortion, it will remain Legal, you forget that there are more women voters than men and when it comes down to it it is a womens rights issue and most women want the right to make their own choices.
I don't think you read my post, at all. I already said abortion would remain legal, what I'm saying though is that people will come around to the fact that it, in fact, is not just a women's rights issue.
By "tie" I mean "winning the hearts and minds" of the issue, not legality:
On gay marriage, social conservatives will ultimately lose. Simply put, there is no legal basis for not allowing homosexual couples to enter the same legal contract, and all included rights, as a straight couple. Furthermore, the Bible is explicitly clear on the authority of the state and its power over temporal matters: "“Is it lawful for us to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?” But Jesus detected their trickery and said to them, “Show Me a denarius. Whose likeness and inscription does it have?” They said, “Caesar’s.”And Jesus said to them, “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
On the other hand, I see support for abortion slipping away. The pro-choicers have already lost the moral and ethical premise for abortion. Will abortion ever become illegal? Probably not, but has abortion won the hearts and minds of people, no not really. Many might try to dismiss it as not being human life, but they are only fooling themselves, IMO in thinking that to justify their beliefs. Does that mean the public will come around to forced ultrasounds and the like? Probably not. But this is a procedure that harms both the mother and the child. My hope is we as a society do the right thing and people come around to contraception (prevent pregnancy) and support adoption.
I agree and disagree. I don't think anyone will "lose" in the gay marriage issue. I think the only actual, real solution will to be to totally separate the legal aspects from the religious aspects. Marriage will be defined by the religious institute you belong to and won't hold any legal aspects at all. Civil unions/contracts will have all the legal aspects (ie. wills, custody, visitation, etc.) and none of the religious conotations. The government will ratify any legal contract held between two or more consenting adults and it will not be called a marriage. Churches will ratify marriages, however they see fit. People can have one or the other, or both! So ultimately, everyone will win!
As far as abortion goes, it will have to change as science learns more about conception and what is really happening as the fetus grows. We learn more everyday. But there will always be legal and safe abortions... where the line is drawn will change, but there will always be those abortions that are neither safe nor legal no matter where the line is drawn. And ultimately, no one wins this issue, on either side, ever!
I agree and disagree. I don't think anyone will "lose" in the gay marriage issue. I think the only actual, real solution will to be to totally separate the legal aspects from the religious aspects. Marriage will be defined by the religious institute you belong to and won't hold any legal aspects at all. Civil unions/contracts will have all the legal aspects (ie. wills, custody, visitation, etc.) and none of the religious conotations. The government will ratify any legal contract held between two or more consenting adults and it will not be called a marriage. Churches will ratify marriages, however they see fit. People can have one or the other, or both! So ultimately, everyone wins
I agree wholeheartedly with this concept. This would result in true marriage equality.
So let me get this straight, gay marriage will become legal and abortion will stay legal even those some people will still be against it....I am okay with that.
Besides abortion isn't something that needs to win the hearts of anyone, it is probably one of the toughest choices for any woman to make, and it is her body to decide what she wishes to do, a woman doesn't need to win over anyone's heart in trying to make that kind of decision, she just needs the ability to decide for herself what she wishes to do.
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