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Old 08-08-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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Originally Posted by Green Onions View Post
You're as sad and lost and wrong and hopeless as the bigots who opposed interracial marriage, who used to be an overwhelming majority but now are in the same dustbin of history towards which you are heading:
Interracial marriage and same-sex "marriage" are apples and oranges. Those who didn't approve of interracial marriage did not consider them invalid or impossible, just unwise. Interracial marriages have always been understood as real marriages by Christians, even when they were illegal.

The Catholic Church has been performing interracial marriages for 2,000 years. Most Protestants in most places have not hesitated to do the same. The recent history of strict racial segregation in the United States is an historical aberration.

Interracial marriage may be wise or unwise, depending on the circumstances, but it is not and never has been considered intrinsically immoral or invalid by the Church. It is real, it exists, it has always existed. Same-sex "marriage", on the other hand, does not exist and never will exist. It is a fiction and an impossibility. When the state organizes itself around a lie - especially a lie pertaining to something as fundamental to society as marriage - the inevitable result is tyranny, and that's exactly what we're seeing today.

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Old 08-08-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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Disgusting, and destructive.
Like I said, your disgusting and destructive discrimination is steadily dying out. A few decades from now, you and people who think like you will be nothing more than an embarrassing historical oddity.

You probably don't believe it, though -- just like, a few decades ago, people just like you (except they were fixated on race, not sexual orientation) just refused to believe that American society would ever accept what they called the disgusting and destructive 'mixing of the races'.

You see, just like you, they had all sorts of nonsensical ways of rationalizing their bigotry.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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Yes 16 years of decline because of desensitization and mainstreaming homosexuality.

Disgusting, and destructive.


Please. You're a woman. You should know your place is on the homemaking portion of the forum, not here arguing with men.


It's only after 50 years of desensitization, feminist propaganda and mainstreaming of the absurd, anti-traditionalist idea that "women are equal to men" (HA) that we have come to this horrid, disgusting and destructive place. Families deteriorating, women voting, going to work... it's not god's plan, and it's not good for society. Tradition is that women stay in the home.

AND we have to listen to women such as yourself pretend your opinion is as valid as the men! Please. Next time we want to know your opinion on which starch to use when ironing we'll give you a ring.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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The reason why 30+ states have passed laws prohibiting same sex marriage is detailed in the OP's attachment.

They are attempting to normalize homosexuality as a legitimate lifestyle, spread it throughout the youth so they accept it as a normal and natural alternative to heterosexuality.

Very dangerous and highly destructive.
How so? Please tell us what is destructive or dangerous about consenting adults engaging in whatever sexual activity they wish? How is that harmful, damaging, or destructive to anyone?

Telling us we have to abide by the rules from a book written a few thousand years ago, which contains so many other rules you choose to ignore as a matter of convenience, is not sufficient. You have to show actual danger & destructiveness.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim View Post
Interracial marriage and same-sex "marriage" are apples and oranges.
Not really, the underlying arguments are pretty much the same.

And are just as stupid.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 01:34 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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Not really, the underlying arguments are pretty much the same.
They are utterly, totally, completely different. You are obviously not acquainted with any of them.

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Old 08-08-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim View Post
Interracial marriage and same-sex "marriage" are apples and oranges. Those who didn't approve of interracial marriage did not consider them invalid or impossible, just unwise. Interracial marriages have always been understood as real marriages by Christians, even when they were illegal.

The Catholic Church has been performing interracial marriages for 2,000 years. Most Protestants in most places have not hesitated to do the same. The recent history of strict racial segregation in the United States is an historical aberration.

Interracial marriage may be wise or unwise, depending on the circumstances, but it is not and never has been considered intrinsically immoral or invalid by the Church. It is real, it exists, it has always existed. Same-sex "marriage", on the other hand, does not exist and never will exist. It is a fiction and an impossibility. When the state organizes itself around a lie - especially a lie pertaining to something as fundamental to society as marriage - the inevitable result is tyranny, and that's exactly what we're seeing today.
No, one is hateful bigotry against non-whites manifested by oppressing them, will all sorts of irrelevant Biblical justifications and bogus societal justifications.

The other is hateful bigotry against homosexuals manifested by oppressing them, will all sorts of irrelevant Biblical justifications and bogus societal justifications.

There is no substantive difference at all.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Originally Posted by Green Onions View Post
No, one is hateful bigotry against non-whites manifested by oppressing them, will all sorts of irrelevant Biblical justifications and bogus societal justifications.

The other is hateful bigotry against homosexuals manifested by oppressing them, will all sorts of irrelevant Biblical justifications and bogus societal justifications.

There is no substantive difference at all.
Homosexuality should be suppressed and not encouraged.

It's destructive to society.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Originally Posted by TriMT7 View Post
Please. You're a woman. You should know your place is on the homemaking portion of the forum, not here arguing with men.


It's only after 50 years of desensitization, feminist propaganda and mainstreaming of the absurd, anti-traditionalist idea that "women are equal to men" (HA) that we have come to this horrid, disgusting and destructive place. Families deteriorating, women voting, going to work... it's not god's plan, and it's not good for society. Tradition is that women stay in the home.

AND we have to listen to women such as yourself pretend your opinion is as valid as the men! Please. Next time we want to know your opinion on which starch to use when ironing we'll give you a ring.
That's a "woman?"
 
Old 08-08-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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How so? Please tell us what is destructive or dangerous about consenting adults engaging in whatever sexual activity they wish? How is that harmful, damaging, or destructive to anyone?

Telling us we have to abide by the rules from a book written a few thousand years ago, which contains so many other rules you choose to ignore as a matter of convenience, is not sufficient. You have to show actual danger & destructiveness.
Read the entire attachment the OP posted in their opening thread.

What same-sex "marriage' has done to Massachusetts

That's how it's destructive.

Has zero to do with the bible. I've said before, I don't care about anything in the bible, I don't use the bible when supporting my arguments against same sex marriage, and the abnormality of homosexuality.
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