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Living in very liberal Toronto with a very large gay population. What I have observed over time is that most of them have nice upscale jobs...beautiful homes or apartments...Compared to some poor white trash couple who are more likely to have their kids taken away by child protection agents ...I would say that gays have the upper hand. Of course they will defer to wealth over the recommendations of agencies who investigate (always with a bias when it comes to the poor) .....You forget..certain lawyers are well connected to certain judges...If you can AFFORD one of these top guns to represent you...You will get results- You get what you pay for...
My point is- when a child protection agency takes children away from poor people..and if kept long enough may be adopted out_ It is unfair that those with more money get the kid. Double income gays and lesbians can pick and choose a designer child...If the kid is blonde and blue eyed...say good by momma.
Also - how often to you see young gay men standing in the soup line at the local mission? YOU don't.
Oh, I see. It's the gays fault that sh*tty parents have their kids taken away? Got it.
You do realize that people usually lose their kids due to abuse or neglect, right? Having seen firsthand what causes these kids to be taken away in the first place, I have zero sympathy for the people you're trying to paint as victims.
Also, I don't know how it is in Canada, but the adoption process is expensive here in the USA, so it's generally affluent couples, straight or gay notwithstanding, adopting these children once they're in the system. So you see, the deck is stacked against these poor white trash child abusers (that you seem so worried about) anyways, regardless of the sexual orientation of the affluent couple snatching their babies away (As you would have us believe)
NO ONE is telling the Churches who they have to marry. There are MANY other ways in which to marry someone. Under federal law, however, anyone should be able to marry who they love and want to start a life with. The religious sect of the country has no place to stop that, and that's how our system works. Everyone goes home (kind of) happy. Religious Authority has a tendency to think spiritual power is temporal power -- something that has been in contention in Christianity since the middle ages. In America, that's unacceptable. A priest or a rabbi cannot say what happens under the law. END OF DEBATE.
You seem not to understand that homosexuality is just as natural and commonplace, and thus unworthy of being singled out for special discrimination, as are the practices listed above.
You seem to not understand that any sexual fetish - pedophilia, homosexuality - is NOT natural and has proven to be harmful to individuals and society.
Thus, special rights should not be given just because people have homosexual fetishes.
Common sense, really.
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Your inability to separate sexual practice from sexual identity speaks volumes about your own inability to address this issue in a mature, civilized way.
You seem to be speaking of yourself.
I am referring to those with homosexual fetishes, not placing their entire identity as if they were the fetish itself.
And how do you know whether someone is gay? Wild guess. You assume all gay men are effeminate and all lesbians are manly with very short hair? Or do you have gay-dar? If so, that means you're gay as well.
Isn't it interesting how those who demand rights based on homosexual fetishes only use axiomatic truth when it is to their advantage... then deny it when it isn't.
Here, you point out the obvious - that you cannot tell a person's sexual fetishes by looking at them.
Then those like you compare those with homosexual fetishes with African Americans, denying the obvious fact that you cannot tell a person by their homosexual fetishes but you CAN tell a person by their race... also denying that you cannot CHOOSE to be African American or not, but you CAN choose to engage in homosexual fetishes.
Isn't it interesting how those who demand rights based on homosexual fetishes only use axiomatic truth when it is to their advantage... then deny it when it isn't.
Here, you point out the obvious - that you cannot tell a person's sexual fetishes by looking at them.
Then those like you compare those with homosexual fetishes with African Americans, denying the obvious fact that you cannot tell a person by their homosexual fetishes but you CAN tell a person by their race... also denying that you cannot CHOOSE to be African American or not, but you CAN choose to engage in homosexual fetishes.
Illogcial childishness at its best.
The only fetish I see here is your compulsive denial that homosexuality is NOT a choice, not a fetish, and includes a lot more than your obsession about how they have sex...Homosexuals deserve and have every right you have in most western nations, but sadly they have been held back in the US by judgmental religious people like yourself who put themselves above everyone who does not conform to their extremely narrow minded religious standards..
But it also seems that they have been successful in dominating all media, FoxNews excepted, and enlisting them as staunch allies and protectors. Thus there are millions walking among us whose group think, "go with the flow" discipline from birth would no more allow them to challenge the sickness and stark raving madness of the concept of homosexual marriage than to become an axe murderer.
This PC era is going to wind down quickly, as the soccer moms who support and drive it will increasingly have less time on their hands to waste. That, and the fact that nature will always prevail in the end.
The madness that has characterized it will be written about for centuries to come as one of the most bizarre studies ever in human psychology.
It's far more likely that relgious zealotry and it's necessary ignorance and bigotry will fade away as people stop blindly believing what they are told by their churches and investigate for the facts themselves in this age of information.
I'm not engaging in a frivolous amateur argument....if there are any published authors who want to try and justify the well known boorish contemporary position...come forward for some schooling. Thankyou.
Are you saying you are going to stop posting religious-based propaganda and misformation and have a well informed educated adult conversation based on evidence? I look forward to it.
I got zero problems with gay couples adopting children. Much better then the foster care system. Take a look at what happens to children churned out of those state run abuse mills and you will change your tune to for anyone who disagrees.
Well, you just blew away one of the most tightly heald stereotypes held by liberals.
Also - how often to you see young gay men standing in the soup line at the local mission? YOU don't.
Plenty. Especially homeless youth who have been kicked out on the street by their uber-religious so called "Christian" parents. Try working for a GLBT crisis center, especially a youth one.
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