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Old 08-27-2012, 08:12 PM
 
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For the record, I'm not a right-winger or left-winger, I'm more of a libertarian.

I don't get why people are so afraid of these people. Why does the media depict these people as badasses? To me they come across as being quite the opposite. Most of the people who I've dealt with who identify as being a right-winger aren't very intimidating as opponents. I don't get why the Obamarama crowd thinks Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin are a serious threat; to be honest both sides come across as effeminate sissies. I just think it's comical, like something off Mad TV when I see them at rallies and such.

"Oh, yeah, we hunt caribou and wolves, we be bad, nyuk nyuk nyuk..."

I've watched the both the Tea Party and OWS movements and rallies and I don't get where these people think that they're warriors or soldiers of any sort. Give me a break!
The TEA Party people I observed are a hybrid of Libertarian and fiscally conservative Republican.

None of them try to convince anyone that they are 'bad ass'. They mostly just want the government to stop spending so damn much money.
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Old 08-27-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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Default Newt Gingrich a perfect example

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Originally Posted by fireandice1000 View Post
For the record, I'm not a right-winger or left-winger, I'm more of a libertarian.

I don't get why people are so afraid of these people. Why does the media depict these people as badasses? To me they come across as being quite the opposite. Most of the people who I've dealt with who identify as being a right-winger aren't very intimidating as opponents.

I've watched both the Tea Party and OWS movements and rallies and I don't get where these people think that they're warriors or soldiers of any sort. Give me a break!

Newt Gingrich used pot in early '80s & tried to get a bill passed, allowing its use at least for medicine. Then he became lobbyist for the medical industry. In 1996, Gingrich introduced a bill that would allow for executions of anyone possessing at least 2 oz of MJ. You can support execution of harmless people by voting Democrat or Republican. If you don't like that, please vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson. Thanks!
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Old 08-27-2012, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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Newt Gingrich used pot in early '80s & tried to get a bill passed, allowing its use at least for medicine. Then he became lobbyist for the medical industry. In 1996, Gingrich introduced a bill that would allow for executions of anyone possessing at least 2 oz of MJ. You can support execution of harmless people by voting Democrat or Republican. If you don't like that, please vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson. Thanks!
If you want to talk about it, at least get it right. Even if that doesn't serve to advance your hyperbolic campaign.

Speaker Gingrich's bill called for the death penalty for certain very specific instances. Specifically, that the person had been convicted of importing into the country from outside it's borders an amount of drug sufficient to create 100 or more doses, and that it was not the convicted's first such conviction.

Importers of illegal drugs in that quantity are not "harmless people".
You can look up the details with a quick web search for the Drug Importer Death Penalty Act of 1996.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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Why does society act like right-wingers are to be feared?

I don't think the average American finds those leaning Right terrifying...perhaps occasionally misguided...but I think it's recognized that those even slightly to the Left of Limbaugh are capable of at least an informed discussion of policy. I think balance is important.

That said, I also think the average American recognizes those on the Far Right are WASPy, rapey versions of the Taliban with just a different instruction manual.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:49 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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For the record, I'm not a right-winger or left-winger, I'm more of a libertarian.

I don't get why people are so afraid of these people. Why does the media depict these people as badasses? To me they come across as being quite the opposite. Most of the people who I've dealt with who identify as being a right-winger aren't very intimidating as opponents. I don't get why the Obamarama crowd thinks Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin are a serious threat; to be honest both sides come across as effeminate sissies. I just think it's comical, like something off Mad TV when I see them at rallies and such.

"Oh, yeah, we hunt caribou and wolves, we be bad, nyuk nyuk nyuk..."

I've watched the both the Tea Party and OWS movements and rallies and I don't get where these people think that they're warriors or soldiers of any sort. Give me a break!
They're usually just to be ridiculed.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:08 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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How quickly we forget that the 60's also saw a lot of groups that likewise didn't trust the Guv-mint... to the point many of them advocated armed overthrow as the only viable option (think Patty Hearst, The Black Panthers, the Weathermen, Yippies, SDS, etc.).

Am personally not real fond of the naked anti-science, anti-intellectualism, and open pandering to bigotry of the Far Right, which is currently rearing its ugly head. But make no mistake, both extremes suffer from that same underlying narcissistic desire for some sort of Authoritarian Control... for your own good of course!
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:14 PM
 
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It's not the Republicans that most Democrats are afraid of. No, it's the whirlwind of anti-intellectualism, fear, and hate that the far right currently embodies. Science and history have been under attack by those in the far right.

As much as the far right is afraid of America becoming a truly socialist state, the left is afraid of America becoming a seething cauldron of uneducated, irrational hate and terror.
Totally agree, but the word that might replace "afraid" is REPULSED.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:18 AM
 
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For the record, I'm not a right-winger or left-winger, I'm more of a libertarian.

I don't get why people are so afraid of these people. Why does the media depict these people as badasses? To me they come across as being quite the opposite. Most of the people who I've dealt with who identify as being a right-winger aren't very intimidating as opponents. I don't get why the Obamarama crowd thinks Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin are a serious threat; to be honest both sides come across as effeminate sissies. I just think it's comical, like something off Mad TV when I see them at rallies and such.

"Oh, yeah, we hunt caribou and wolves, we be bad, nyuk nyuk nyuk..."

I've watched the both the Tea Party and OWS movements and rallies and I don't get where these people think that they're warriors or soldiers of any sort. Give me a break!
Ignorance is dangerous.

Intolerance is dangerous.

Voter suppression is dangerous

Militaristic foreign policy is dangerous.

The belief that "If we don't get what we want with ballots then we'll do it with bullets" is dangerous

The belief that your country is the best in the world despite a deficient K-12 educational system, an inefficient and costly health care system, and crumbling infrastructure is not in the best long term interest of the United States.

A lack of compassion for people less fortunate than you is indicative of a lack of humanity.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:24 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Why does society act like right-wingers are to be feared?

Extremists, at either end of the political/societal spectrum, should be feared ... and condemned. At the moment, the nation faces the risk of reduced freedoms because of the extremists constituting the "right-wing" of the GOP. That's why so many honest and loyal Americans rebut their rhetoric and attempts to install big, bigger and the biggest government intrusion into our lives.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Republicans prefer Slavery times

Republicans want to go back to the days of Slavery. This level of ignorance is startling.
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