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Old 08-09-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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Because she returned to the confrontation only to SHOOT him.
Zimmerman got out of his car to confront Trayvon. He could have stayed in the car and let the police do their job.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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911 operators have no authority to "order" anyone to do anything.

But don't let facts get in the way of your little emotion based argument.
The poster did not say he was "ordered." The Junior G-Man apparently followed the kid after being warned.

BTW, what has happened with Junior G-Man's wife and the lying about the money they had in savings? High-class individuals we're dealing with here.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:01 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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so let me understand your stance. Damn the public ....A parent who has lost their child to violence is a Law Retard for wanting to see Justice? Is that your stance?
No. Just these parents.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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I have no emotion in this case. Just going by the known facts. I guess you think that when a 911 dispatcher says "We don't need you to do that." it's just an idle suggestion? If so, then whose grasping at straws now?
To you and me, the words of the 911 dispatcher would have translated to..."Don't leave your vehicle."

To an idiot like Zimmerman, those words translated to..."We don't need for you to do that, but if you want to help us out because we always rely on armed non-law enforcement to follow, apprehend and detain people that have not broken the law".

So...to all the posters that think Zimmerman's actions following the 911 call were what the 911 dispatcher intended, I can only say that you have the I.Q and logic of a dolt like GZ.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:06 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Interesting. If the stand your ground law is valid, why was this Florida black woman convicted? Anyone see the difference here? She was cornered by her abusive husband, but she's black and a woman, so she is not supposed to fight back and defend herself. And, she didn't kill him.

Marissa Alexander Sentenced: Florida Mom Who Shot At Abusive Husband Gets 20 Years In Prison
The GZ defenders will somehow see it as the shooters fault in this case
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Because she returned to the confrontation only to SHOOT him.
Rest my case. About guns.....not hardly.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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The poster did not say he was "ordered." The Junior G-Man apparently followed the kid after being warned.

BTW, what has happened with Junior G-Man's wife and the lying about the money they had in savings? High-class individuals we're dealing with here.
Again, following someone is not against the law. Playing amateur wannabecop on "neighborhood patrol" is not against the law as long as that individual never states he is an LEO.

The action was a result of TM confronting and attacking GZ as there is no evidence to the contrary. His injuries are consistent with his statements unless you believe he shot Martin, then bashed his own head on the ground a few times.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Actually GZ stated he was returning to his vehicle (as in no longer attempting to find TM) when TM confronted and attacked him.

It helps to actually know the case if you wish to comment on it.
I know this case very well and have followed it from day one. You keep trying to diminish my input to this conversation by personally attacking me and my credibility. Stop it! Stay on your message. Push your agenda and Debunk my posts, but keep your personal attacks on me out of it.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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To you and me, the words of the 911 dispatcher would have translated to..."Don't leave your vehicle."

To an idiot like Zimmerman, those words translated to..."We don't need for you to do that, but if you want to help us out because we always rely on armed non-law enforcement to follow, apprehend and detain people that have not broken the law".

So...to all the posters that think Zimmerman's actions following the 911 call were what the 911 dispatcher intended, I can only say that you have the I.Q and logic of a dolt like GZ.

What the 911 operator said is irrelevant. It would be the same as me telling you to stay in your car. I have no authority to tell you what to do, and you have no obligation to listen to me.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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The GZ defenders will somehow see it as the shooters fault in this case
Does anyone recall a couple years ago at a Rand Paul rally, when one of his thugs, er, supporters, threw down and put his foot on the neck of some small woman who was protesting? I kid you not, the thug and right-wingers tried to defend it by saying that the petite gal was "rushing Rand's car" and they had to "protect" him from this possible attack. By the end of it, they were nearly arguing that she had placed her neck under the goober's boot.

They can spin anything. Anything, I tell you.
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