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Old 08-10-2012, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Over There
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The FBI doesnt get to rewrite facts in history..

No matter how hard they might try!!!
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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lol
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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Just as denial and complete lack of self-awareness never changes with conservatives.
What part of white supremacist do you not understand about Michael Page?
He was a white supremist want to be, not right wing or left wing.

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What about all the left wing hate groups as well? I recall OWS which turned out to be nothing more than a rape, assault and opiate festival...... if they had only stood for what they SAID they stood for they would have gotten my respect
What about the hate group of feminazis who urged the Dems to start a war on women recently?
The list could go on and on and.....
Yes, though, it is troubling to see these white supremascist groups doing the crap they are doing
It is not the white supremist groups but fringe loons who want to belong to something they think is cool.

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So what makes him a right winger? Being a white supremacist most certainly doesn't!!
No where in the background or definition does the term right wing appear in that of a white supremacist . Perhaps you should learn the background.
White supremacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He applied for membership with a white supremist group, he was not an actual member.

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LOL. Neo-Nazis liberal left-wingers...LMAO.
Neo-Nazis are neither left or right.

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What in the world do you think a right wing extremist is? What makes someone a "right winger"? You would do well to study a little American history over the past 75 years. Do you think the KKK was a liberal leftist group? Do you even have any idea how and when the KKK was started? Certainly seems you do not. You personally can redefine these terms all you want, but it does not and will not change the definition which is most generally accepted in our society.
We have our crazies on the liberal side, but the white supremacists are YOURS.
I had several great-uncles who were in the KKK and they were Democrats.

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Now this is a fair post. Two thumbs up for the non partisan post. Very refreshing. It is amusing to watch the members of the right wing try to do mental gymnastics to prove the KKK is not a right wing extremist group. Unfortunately, most of the right wing posters are not mentally coordinated enough to perform mental gymnastics and end up looking like mental midgets.
Actually the KKK is a fringe group neither right wing or left wing they are their own fringe group.

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It goes both ways. The recently declassified FBI documents talk about both right-wing and left-wing extremist groups:
Right-Wing Groups:
White Supremacists, National Alliance, Aryan Nations, the World Church of the Creator, White Revolution, Hammerskin Nation, and various KKK groups. It then goes on to talk about militias and what separates them from most right-wing extremist groups.
Left-Wing Groups (these are also Single Issue Groups):
Animal Rights, Eco Terrorists, Animal Liberation Front, Earth Liberation Front.
Then there's anti-abortion terrorists, etc.
Link to document: https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.document...o-homeland.pdf (Page 7 onward in Adobe, Page 16 is Actual page)
Link to other FBI declassified documents: Documenting the FBI: Declassified Documents Provide New Detail on Confronting the Terrorist Threat - from al-Qaeda to Skinheads (The above is Document 19).
And who of these groups are the most violent and destructive.

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Obviously, too, many people are not recognizing that there was much more threat from the left-wing extremist groups back in the 1960s. Today that has shifted to violence from the right-wing extremist side, with a rise in the number of hate groups. And, no, I don't consider the "Tea Party" to be a hate group or terrorists.
IMO, it is very amusing watching people twist and squirm trying to "re-define" right wing extremists groups as leftist liberals!!
Most extremist groups are their own groups not right or left.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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I think some on this thread need to learn the history of the KKK they were DEMOCRATS not Republicans. They wanted to KEEP the slaves, the Republicans wanted to FREE them. Read people before calling the KKK a right wing group.
the ignorance of the topic continues to show in your posts. YOU need to learn the history of the Republican and Democratic Parties. Obviously you are clueless regarding that history if you think the Democrats of today are the same as the Democrats of yester-year. Have you ever heard of something called the "Southern Strategy" or the "Dixiecrats"? No? Didn't think so. It's abundantly clear from your posts that you wouldn't. You really should rethink your posts which seem to be based on such apparently shallow knowledge of the subject. NOBODY with even a high school education of political history would call white supremacists leftist liberals.

Again, what are conservative values? What is conservative ideology? When you can answer those questions, you will be on the track to UNDERSTANDING the connection to white supremacists and neo-nazis. Btw, do you support gay rights?
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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He was a white supremist want to be, not right wing or left wing.

It is not the white supremist groups but fringe loons who want to belong to something they think is cool.

He applied for membership with a white supremist group, he was not an actual member.

Neo-Nazis are neither left or right.

I had several great-uncles who were in the KKK and they were Democrats.

Actually the KKK is a fringe group neither right wing or left wing they are their own fringe group.

And who of these groups are the most violent and destructive.

Most extremist groups are their own groups not right or left.
1. What do you mean "white supremacist want to be"? Certainly that is NOT what his record shows. Where do you get you information? Certainly the FBI disagrees with you on that.

2. What?

3. Show us what you're relying upon to say he "applied" for membership in a white supremacist group but was not an actual member, and how does that affect his BELIEFS? Do you have to apply for membership in Stormfront? How about his white supremacist "rock" band? Was that just his imagination?

4. Neo-Nazis have no beliefs which identify with more right wing conservative ideology? LOL Please tell us WHY you think that Neo-Nazis are neither "left nor right."

5. So you're another one who seems to be ignorant of the evolution of the Republican and Democratic Parties. Never heard of the Dixiecrats, The Southern Strategy, etc? No? Do you think your great uncles would be members of the Democratic Party TODAY? Hmmm? THINK about that one.

6. Actually, the KKK is almost non-existent today as a consequence of a lawsuit in the late 1980s which resulted in their loss of all their property, assets and money. HOWEVER, the white supremacists of today are all basically the descendants of the KKK. And still you seem to know almost nothing of the history of the KKK.

7. You tell us the answer to that question.

8. You just continue to repeat yourself without any source to back up your belief/opinion.


Now my question: Are you defending the KKK and Neo-Nazis as being "special" and "unique" for some reason?
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:51 PM
 
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Default Ask Obama's freinds Bill Ayers & Bernardine Dorhn.

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There has been a sharp rise in extremist groups since 2008. What can be done to counteract these dangerous extremist groups?............
Probably the same thing that is being done to counteract the dangerous left wing extremist groups.

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Old 08-10-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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Really huh well perhaps the FBI needs to learn their history. The KKK was NOT started by Republicans, it was started bt Dems in the south that wanted to keep their slaves. That is a FACT! The KKK has some how been thrown over to our side as the Dems try to forget that they started the whole damn group. NOT GONNA FLY!!
You know why this post ^^^ is wrong, wrong, wrong? Because you seem to have no knowledge whatsoever about this history of the Democratic and Repuplican Parties. You obviously don't have a clue. LOL You can post those ignorant thoughts about the Democrats and Republican all you want, but you're still wrong, wrong, wrong.

Key words: Dixiecrats and Southern Strategy. This is critical information regarding the political parties, and without understanding this, it's impossible to debate intelligently about the connection between the Dems/Repubs and KKK TODAY.

"In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections in Southern states by exploiting anti–African American racism and fears of lawlessness among Southern white voters and appealing to fears of growing federal power in social and economic matters (generally lumped under the concept of states' rights)."

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Hotair with another great thread
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:41 PM
 
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The Left has been on a violent campaign against normal Americans for 70 years. They have no limits and will do anything to tear this country down and keep themselves in power and wealthy. We are now seeing the greatest threat to our individual freedoms and nation in our lifetimes.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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There has been a sharp rise in extremist groups since 2008. What can be done to counteract these dangerous extremist groups?

Were the Sikh Temple Killings Preventable? | Mother Jones
The rush to blame all the latest senseless killing on the right never end, do they?

Let's see:

1) Mayor Bloomberg himself blamed the Faisal Shahzad Times Square bombing attempt on the Tea party

2) The left-wing media rushed to connect James Holmes theater murders to the Tea Party


3) The left-wing media rushed
to connect the University of Alabama-Huntsville murders to the Tea Party.

4) The left-wing media rushed
to connect Holocaust Museum shooter James Von Brunn to the Tea Party

5) The left-wing media rushed to blame the Jared Loughner shooting of Gabby Gifford on Limbaugh, Palin, and the Tea Party


6) The left-wing media rushed to blame the Joseph Stack
t plane crash into an Austin, Texas, office complex, on the Tea Party

So it's no surprise that the looney-left thinks they can blame this latest shooting on republicans, conservatives, and the hated Tea party movement.


The only ****ing time you jerks ever decided it was time to take a step back before pronouncing motives behind a killing was when Maj. Nidal Hasan shouted
"Allahu Akbar!" before he murdered soldiers and civilians.
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