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Old 08-10-2012, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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let's not forget the good part mmmk?
What did he need a permit for? Again that is nothing more then the government shaking down anyone who dares to sell something on their turf. The city is nothing more then a legalized racket.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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What did he need a permit for? Again that is nothing more then the government shaking down anyone who dares to sell something on their turf. The city is nothing more then a legalized racket.
He needs a permit. Anytime you try to sell food you need one. He's no different than anyone else just because he has a good cause.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The part where he was fined for his efforts of raising money for vets. He was fined for breaking rules relating to food service, whether he was raising money, keeping the money, or doing it for free is inconsequential.

They really should consider adding forum guidelines about deliberately lying in thread titles, it has become quite pervasive around here.
If he hadn't raised the money for the veterans then he wouldn't have needed the "permit" and wouldn't have been fined.

So the title of the thread is entirely accurate - if the kid hadn't put out any effort - then the city would have left him alone.

Sounds like the city is anti-veteran.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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He needs a permit. Anytime you try to sell food you need one. He's no different than anyone else just because he has a good cause.
And the permit is what? : a piece of paper saying that you have paid your protection money to the government racketeers.

What exactly is the purpose of the permit besides filling the government coffers with money taken at gunpoint?
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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And the permit is what? : a piece of paper saying that you have paid your protection money to the government racketeers.

What exactly is the purpose of the permit besides filling the government coffers with money taken at gunpoint?
The permit which says you're storing and cooking food at the proper temperatures so no one gets sick..
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The permit which says you're storing and cooking food at the proper temperatures so no one gets sick..
The kid sold hamburgers - as far as we know - no one got sick - and he was fined.

How does the fine ensure that no one gets sick after the fact?
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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what the hell is this country becoming

Boy fined $170 during fundraiser for WWII vets
It seems like a valid public health issue. He was selling hamburgers to the public without getting the proper health inspections done to help prevent a risk to public health due to food born illness. It is a problem which is easily solved by a visit to the county administration office.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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The kid sold hamburgers - as far as we know - no one got sick - and he was fined.

How does the fine ensure that no one gets sick after the fact?
Yes, the kid sold hamburgers, which requires a license if its prepared. Unless he sold them uncooked, which I doubt, a permit is needed and has been needed pretty much everywhere for like 20+ years..

The fine is to because he didnt get the permit, the permit is to make sure its all prepared properly.. You cant be having this much trouble following along..
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Pointless.

And it was a lie, whether YOU wrote it or MSN. He wasn't "fined for his efforts", he was fined for not getting the permit. The reason you do something doesn't exempt you from the fees required to do it. The city council paid the fee for him so all is well and nothing to see here.
Agreed. Another example of our lovely, agenda-ridden, sensationalist yellow journalism.

Our media is a festering toilet of crap.

Facts? What facts?
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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The kid sold hamburgers - as far as we know - no one got sick - and he was fined.

How does the fine ensure that no one gets sick after the fact?
The fines are to insure people selling food to the public take a course in safe food handling and preparation to prevent food born illness. Such classes are typically ~$40 and can be finished in one day. After that he can apply for a special use permit to sell prepared food to the general public provided the cooking location passes a public health inspection. Yes, this is actually a valid public health issue as more people die from food born illness world wide than from anything else.

It's an easy fix so why are you so upset?
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