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Old 08-11-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: not Chicagoland
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I am concerned that this rule from Obamacare will be used as a form of controlling population from certain people. Isn't this more of the old time progressive method of controlling certain people from procreating? I see it as just that, for poor people and certain races. I love how the supporters of this crap talk in such high sounding words but won't talk about what is really happening. Listen to Nasty Nancy on the video.


Obamacare Mandate: Sterilize 15-Year-Old Girls for Free--Without Parental Consent | CNSNews.com
Not true at all. This is a grossly wrong twisting of what is written. Also, your sources (as always) are from right-wing hate sites.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:43 PM
 
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Not true at all. This is a grossly wrong twisting of what is written. Also, your sources (as always) are from right-wing hate sites.
Typical conservative strategy. If the facts don't support your agenda, just lie and twist them until they do.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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This is actually about a law in the state of Oregon. The health care mandate doesn't specify ages for things, nor should it as it's a dr/patient issue, but Oregon gives absolute medical rights to 15 year olds. Nothing has really changed at all except how it's paid.
Well it is nice that someone finally figured out what this one is intended to be talking about. I don't think that this is intended to make anything cheaper for anybody and am sure that most teens don't really realize that forever is a bit longer than this month or whatever pills are for.

I wonder how many people read over and over there that Kathleen Sebelius was involved so although Oregon is involved she has said it works for any female over age 12, which is the normal age the become able to produce babies.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If we didn't have as high of a population as we have, and could get our birth rate under control, the odds are greater that we would be enjoying a real economic recovery right now. Overpopulation is one of the major reasons why we're as screwed as we are. Anything that reduces population will help us (as long as it's constitutional)
I see that you don't know how many babies per producer it takes to maintain our population and that you don't know that our rate has fallen below that number. This is something that I thought everybody knew about but I guess some don't.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Too bad the rule doesn't say that.
Actually it is too bad that what bureaucrats see as what is said is what it says and Kathleen Sebelius is sure one of those people. No, she wasn't elected but Obama did make a grand selection when he picked her for that job.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:10 PM
 
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I'm mixed on my opinion on this one. Since these girls can already have their babies killed without parental consent, it's really not so bad if they are sterilized instead.
Do you think a 15 year old would understand this..........then one day she wants children and no can do!!! This is not right to do to children and without the parent knowing I would be pissed. At 15 that's still a parents right to know whats going on in their child's life.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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Overpopulation is only a concern for socialist societies, it helps with the unemployment issue for one thing.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:13 PM
 
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If that's the case then why are we allowing one million to immigrate here legally every year? If population control is the goal why not simply limit immigration?
Possibly to dilute the Americans that are here.........less Americans they can change the rules, from what most immigrants come from it's still a "Paradise" and they don't know how it used to be in America or whats changed.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The very unfortunate thing is... If we sterilized everyone in this country today, our population would still increase. We basically invite everyone south of the boarder with our porous boarders to waltz on in to do our dirty work.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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Basically, we disenfranchised the welfare class and now were trying to get rid of them.
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