Should the South secede? (Texas, bill, countries, against)

[wildbill80]

Originally Posted by pch1013

At least one Northern liberal thinks it should, and he's written a book about it.

So here's a poll. Discuss.

What's considered north and south? What's the logic behind splitting up the north and the south? What about the western states?

I think it's a ridiculous idea.

[analyze_this]

Originally Posted by Yeledaf

Ever been in the military? In combat?

Never mind. I know the answer just from your flippant and disrespectful post.

Plenty of blacks and hispanics in the military. Seriously doubt they woul side with a Confederacy.

[Yeledaf]

Originally Posted by joebaldknobber

Puerto Ricans make the best soldiers.

Interesting non sequitur.

We had a Puerto Rican guy in our platoon in Vietnam. Good dude.

Would you believe that he was a Mormon? From Salt Lake City? First and last Mormon Puerto Rican I ever met...

[Dutchman01]

Originally Posted by analyze_this

Actually its a great idea. The problem is southern states will be extremely reluctant to leave. But a peaceful transition to two countries, a United States of America and a Confederate States of America may very well be the right fix for this nation's ills. The Confederacy could adopt a religious Christianity based state which would allow for reintroduction of segregation, slavery etc. That would make the CSA citizens VERY happy.

Its a possibility and personally, I really hope it happens.

You realize, of course, a return to the model designed by our founders, that of a weak federal government and strong state and local governments would accomplish the same thing and preserve the union. The founders of the union knew what they were doing.

[Yeledaf]

Originally Posted by analyze_this

Plenty of blacks and hispanics in the military. Seriously doubt they woul side with a Confederacy.

I'm not sure what that means, since I don't recall mentioning a Confederacy, but okay.

I was referring to the disproportionate number of Southerners in the military -- especially in the combat arms. And I speak from experience.

[Dutchman01]

Originally Posted by Yeledaf

Interesting non sequitur.

We had a Puerto Rican guy in our platoon in Vietnam. Good dude.

Would you believe that he was a Mormon? From Salt Lake City? First and last Mormon Puerto Rican I ever met...

I had a puerto rican friend when I was in the navy. He was from new york city. We used to cruise the puerto rican neighborhood in his volkswagen. I was never very comfortable about it but he always told me I'd make it out alive as long as I was with him.

[Yeledaf]

For fantasy fans, this is a pretty good read. I won't be a spoiler, but --- it has a happy ending.

Amazon.com: If The South Had Won The Civil War (9780312869496): MacKinlay Kantor, Dan Nance, Harry Turtledove: Books

[Scotty011]

Originally Posted by analyze_this

Actually its a great idea. The problem is southern states will be extremely reluctant to leave. But a peaceful transition to two countries, a United States of America and a Confederate States of America may very well be the right fix for this nation's ills. The Confederacy could adopt a religious Christianity based state which would allow for reintroduction of segregation, slavery etc. That would make the CSA citizens VERY happy.

Its a possibility and personally, I really hope it happens.

How long does it take for someone to become this ignorant????

[analyze_this]

Originally Posted by Dutchman01

You realize, of course, a return to the model designed by our founders, that of a weak federal government and strong state and local governments would accomplish the same thing and preserve the union. The founders of the union knew what they were doing.

Unfortunately the Southern States want to impose their views on the Northern and Western ones, who want the federal government to be involved in certain things such as education, food safety, environment, infrastructure etc. and not turn us into a theocracy.

The only way that I see an amicable resolution is to have two separate federal governments with perhaps some cooperation as needed. There are countries out there with this model.

[joebaldknobber]

Louisiana on this map will make you laugh!