A rational defense of Ryan's budget and Medicare plans (regular, economic, state)
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Ryan has said specifically that Congress needs to decide the deductions and expenditures to be eliminated. He believes there should be a discussion and the people should have input.
Is that the way you want to play it, jt? Have you ever posted a primary source yourself, or anything that wasn't a conservative website? Do you want us to go into Paul Ryan's plan, read it in detail, make our own charts comparing with CBO analysis, and get back to you so that we can get the approval of an anonymous internet poster like yourself?
Game. On. Prepare to reap what you sow.
LOL....so you have NOTHING showing that Paul Ryan ever makes that claim?
I already said that 2.8% unemployment sounds ridiculous.
The proof I was given was a far-left loon named Krugman (who's been proven to lie before) and some place called TALKING POINTS MEMO.
Gee......I wish at least you'd give me CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, or something CREDIBLE!!!!!
EDIT: Wait a second!!! Ryan never makes that claim at all. Heritage Foundation said that. Why are you saying Ryan makes that claim?
Ryan has said specifically that Congress needs to decide the deductions and expenditures to be eliminated. He believes there should be a discussion and the people should have input.
Ah, so Fearless Leader Krugman was right about at least one thing...
LOL....so you have NOTHING showing that Paul Ryan ever makes that claim?
I already said that 2.8% unemployment sounds ridiculous.
The proof I was given was a far-left loon named Krugman (who's been proven to lie before) and some place called TALKING POINTS MEMO.
Gee......I wish at least you'd give me CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, or something CREDIBLE!!!!!
EDIT: Wait a second!!! Ryan never makes that claim at all. Heritage Foundation said that. Why are you saying Ryan makes that claim?
When did Krugman lie? Please make sure to provide credible links. Why wouldn't Talking Points Memo be credible? Where is your link to Heritage Foundation? Please provide credible links. Let's begin holding you accountable.
LOL....so you have NOTHING showing that Paul Ryan ever makes that claim?
I already said that 2.8% unemployment sounds ridiculous.
The proof I was given was a far-left loon named Krugman (who's been proven to lie before) and some place called TALKING POINTS MEMO.
Gee......I wish at least you'd give me CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, or something CREDIBLE!!!!!
LOL. You make some absolutely ridiculous statements on these boards, but this is rich even for you. Analysts are reading the plan Ryan wrote, and Ryan MAKES THE CLAIM IN THE DOCUMENT HE WROTE. Good grief, even someone of your limited intelligence should be able to connect those dots.
Here's another one, by The Economist--not exactly a raging leftwing site. And this analyst calls Ryan's projection of 2.8% unemployment "simply outlandish."
When did Krugman lie? Please make sure to provide credible links. Why wouldn't Talking Points Memo be credible? Where is your link to Heritage Foundation? Please provide credible links. Let's begin holding you accountable.
When I asked for links to Ryan making that claim about 2.8% unemployment, Liberals here gave me links to a Krugman article in the NYT and another one to TPM (Talking Points Memo).
When I followed those links, THEY linked ONLY to the Heritage Foundation.
Their entire articles were based on what the Heritage Foundation says.
I couldn't find ANYTHING in those links where Ryan actually projected that or claimed it in writing or in his own words.
Talking Points Memo???? Even it's NAME sounds like SPIN.
Paul Krugman's lies? I could fill this thread with them! But I'll give you one as a bone:
When I asked for links to Ryan making that claim about 2.8% unemployment, Liberals here gave me links to a Krugman article in the NYT and another one to TPM (Talking Points Memo).
When I followed those links, THEY linked ONLY to the Heritage Foundation.
Their entire articles were based on what the Heritage Foundation says.
I couldn't find ANYTHING in those links where Ryan actually projected that or claimed it in writing or in his own words.
Talking Points Memo???? Even it's NAME sounds like SPIN.
Paul Krugman's lies? I could fill this thread with them! But I'll give you one as a bone:
Paul Krugman's only example turns out to have been fraudulent.
LOL your one example of a lie is not even a lie! Your only reason to doubt talking points memo is because of its name?!? Lame, jt, lame. Try again. And try reading a Krugman article, maybe you'd learn something.
LOL your one example of a lie is not even a lie! Your only reason to doubt talking points memo is because of its name?!? Lame, jt, lame. Try again. And try reading a Krugman article, maybe you'd learn something.
Maybe YOU Liberals should learn to NOT lie and say Paul Ryan made a claim about 2.8 % unemployment and then not be able to back it up with a quote at all???
I still can't figure out why it's SO DIFFICULT for you Liberals to show someone a simple quote when you claim someone's said something??
Instead all you give me is links to well-know partisan hacks who's articles only discuss the Heritage Foundation's report.
Obama's healthcare reform delivered huge benefits to insurance companies. In fact, I don't even consider it to be healthcare reform, but health insurance reform. And they are benefiting greatly from that reform.
And took $700 billion from medicare in the process.
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