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Old 08-15-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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It's all caving in on the Democrats, a little more each day.

Answering questions, telling the truth, is the one thing they dare not do. All they can do, is try desperately to keep the questions from being asked.

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House Dems: It’s totally unfair to have a debate question on the deficit commission Obama created and then ignored « Hot Air

House Dems: It’s totally unfair to have a debate question on the deficit commission Obama created and then ignored

posted at 10:01 am on August 15, 2012
by Ed Morrissey

Some Democratic lawmakers want to make sure that one question does not get asked at the upcoming first presidential debate – about Simpson-Bowles.

Three Democratic House members objected Tuesday to a request by four senators that President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney be asked which of the commission’s proposals to address the debt they support. The Democrats said such a question would force “candidates to choose solutions from one menu of options.” …

But that caused Reps. Mike Honda (D-Calif.), Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) and Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) to cry foul, writing in their own letter to the debate commission on Tuesday that although the Simpson-Bowles commission’s plan “may contain proposals helpful to our recovery…to hold it out as the only pathway to fiscal responsibility and economic success is foolish and wrong.”

“We urge the [Debate] Commission to fight any effort to unnecessarily narrow such an important debate by placing disproportionate attention on one set of proposals over another,” they wrote, adding that such a question would “cheapen the debate” and “thwart the candidates’ ability to explain alternative proposals.”

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On the face of it, this is a ridiculous assertion. Asking one question about the Simpson-Bowles plan doesn’t restrict a range of answers on budget reforms and deficits.

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But of course, this isn’t about the range of options in the debate. Democrats don’t want Barack Obama to have to answer for his total rejection of the commission he called into existence in the first place.

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Old 08-15-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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I'm a Democrat. I support simpson/bowles. I think Democrats should embrace the plan. It's a good contrast to the GOP/Ryan budget plan.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I'm a Democrat. I support simpson/bowles. I think Democrats should embrace the plan.
Good.

When do they (the current Democrat leadership) plan to start?
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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Default Obama over his head and drowning, too late to learn to swim

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I'm a Democrat. I support simpson/bowles. I think Democrats should embrace the plan. It's a good contrast to the GOP/Ryan budget plan.
Harry Reid/Nancy Pelosi could have done just that. Instead they were too busy passing government regulated healthcare.

The ship on the economy and recovery solitions have sailed and team Obama is sinking fast.

Buh bye.......
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The interviewers questions say it all. We all need to know which super power Obama would love to have. Why didn't he say the ability to do math? That would really be cool!
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Good.

When do they (the current Democrat leadership) plan to start?

I must admit I'm as perterbed at S-B not passing. It was just as much the republicans fault. They were only 3 votes away, 3 r's or 3d's, or any combination.

Proof both sides are playing the same games. But, this is completely off the reservation:

Three Democratic House members objected Tuesday to a request by four senators that President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney be asked which of the commission’s proposals to address the debt they support. The Democrats said such a question would force “candidates to choose solutions from one menu of options.” …

The Democrats don't even want questions regarding the debt to be debated.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Oh I'd say its massively fair to ask why it wasn't followed. Good to ask Republicans the same question, why don't yih back Simpson bowles instead of writing a plan with no chance of passing like the president did with his.

Simpson-Bowles is a perfect example of how Washington is broken.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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Back in the real world, the Simpson-Bowles committee - which republicans began opposing immediately after Obama agreed to it, despite many of them having co-sponsored it beforehand - could not come to an agreement, and so could not make any recommendation, although they did release a draft that they ultimately rejected. Instead, congress agreed to an across the board 10% cut to all discretionary spending, unless their own comittee could come to an agreement, which they could not.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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One caveat is that Bowles was also a board member of Morgan Stanley, and definately had a conflict of interest. BTW, Bowles is the D.

Response to Common Criticisms of the Simpson-Bowles Plan | Moment of Truth
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Simpson Bowles was the raw financial truth. Both sides ran from it. Each blamed the other. Sad but true.
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